Those stats are great but he also will never be able to shake the rep of choking

Oct 28, 2020
11:47:35am

cougarblue All-American

He seems like a great guy and I'm happy he won a ring but those choke jobs, especially last year versus the Nationals will always haunt him. Because of that, I put him in the 20-30 category of all time great pitchers.

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So, is Clayton Kershaw now the greatest Pitcher of all time?

JOPE Resident Golf Fanatic

10/28/20 11:34am

Post season performance this year stepped up.

Dr MoBYU

10/28/20 11:36am

I still go with Koufax, short career and all

AZ Coug

10/28/20 11:36am

Koufax, 12 seasons 2.76 ERA 2400 strikeouts

JOPE

10/28/20 11:50am

They are close in ERA and Ks. I think these numbers separate the two

AZ Coug

10/28/20 4:37pm

In my opinion, he should be sainted. Best Jewish/non-Jewish pitcher of all time.

baldcougar

10/28/20 11:52am

He is #34 on all time list, 1st among active players

Colorado

10/28/20 11:38am

He’s the number one starter pitcher in ERA in the live ball era

JOPE

10/28/20 11:40am

Being in the NL his whole career sure helps that, though.

JDBlue

10/28/20 11:43am

His ERA is also the lowest when you adjust for ballpark and league average

JOPE

10/28/20 11:46am

Being in the weak NL West compared to the AL East day in and day out matters too

JDBlue

10/28/20 11:48am

I'm in a small minority. Greatest for me is Nolan Ryan. Childhood hero.

gangbusters

10/28/20 11:38am

Career era 3.19, on much less rest, ~5400 Inn, ~5700 K, most no-hitters.

bruincoug

10/28/20 12:04pm

Great but not greatest. This WS he got his playoff winning percentage over 50%.

endy

10/28/20 11:38am

Definitely in the conversation with Koufax, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez,

Jdoc

10/28/20 11:38am

...and Bob Gibson.

Hawk in the 303

10/28/20 11:48am

Yes

Jdoc

10/28/20 12:45pm

Paige, Gibson, Ryan, Hubble, Feller, Marichal ...

bruincoug

10/28/20 11:51am

...and Tom Seaver.

Hawk in the 303

10/28/20 11:52am

I think Pedro is the GOAT (Pedro was a Dodger too, so we still have the GOAT!)

BoiseBlue

10/28/20 11:55am

One more world series win with him winning 2 games in that WS then yes.

DazeofBlue

10/28/20 11:41am

Definitely Top 10. Maybe top 5. Top 3 lefty for sure.

shimmy

10/28/20 11:43am

I'd say top 5 for sure but still behind Koufax and Johnson at least.

scall

10/28/20 11:46am

No, but if he plays well another 4-5 years or more, top 5 or 10 I think.

bruincoug

10/28/20 11:47am

I agree that continued longevity will help his argument

JOPE

10/28/20 11:55am

Those stats are great but he also will never be able to shake the rep of choking

cougarblue

10/28/20 11:47am

Disagree

bruincoug

10/28/20 11:48am

That statement is ridiculous

JOPE

10/28/20 11:54am

From Sportscasting.com

cougarblue

10/28/20 12:27pm

Maddux

Freeagent12

10/28/20 11:52am

He’s a good choice, it’s tough to argue against Greg Maddux

JOPE

10/28/20 11:55am

He was great, but from overlapping era, I put Ryan, then Maddux, then Johnson

bruincoug

10/28/20 12:12pm

Nolan Ryan! Come on, Man!

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