Actually, I never established any goal posts.

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Jan 15, 2021
12:24:21am

ldssdl Truly Addicted User

Actually, I never established any goal posts.

You interpreted it as raw box score stats, without regard for minutes played by each player, nor the quality of opponent.

I’m supposed to be more impressed by 12 points against a DII school in a blowout win at home than 7 points against a Q1 opponent on the road in a defensive slugfest? And get back to me when you control those stats for minutes played.

I wouldn’t say Harding is a better ball handler than Knell. I’ve seen Knell drive to the rim more than Harding this year. And Harding looks like he’s running in sand this year. Maybe I’d give a slight edge to Harding for defense, but by a hair.

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Pope just said this team has overcome some major lockerroom problems last 2 days

brazilcoug

1/14/21 11:33pm

My guess is Connor Harding had to come to terms that Knell needed to start.

brazilcoug

1/14/21 11:34pm

That was what I thought from gushing about Harding's attitude of late as well

rggee

1/14/21 11:34pm

Still don't understand why that would be a major problem & Knell didnt play well

coug10278

1/14/21 11:38pm

Guys take pride in being starters. Takes a lot of humility to step down because

brazilcoug

1/14/21 11:40pm

Agree with the humility part but "major" lockeroom problem. Pope does think BIG

coug10278

1/14/21 11:42pm

He’s passionate and probably not easy to get a guy like Connor to step down.

brazilcoug

1/14/21 11:43pm

Knell wasn’t perfect, but he played better compared to Harding almost any game

ldssdl

1/14/21 11:44pm

Played much better during 2nd H scoring run but so did most...1st half was bad

coug10278

1/14/21 11:47pm

So was George in the first half

puntersarepeople

1/14/21 11:52pm

He shot 1-2 in the first half, no turnovers.

ldssdl

1/14/21 11:55pm

His shooting threat was definitely needed and helped.

YSMACK

1/15/21 12:15am

Not really.

YSMACK

1/15/21 12:12am

First game was against a DII school, and the second opponent wasn’t much better.

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:15am

Now you're moving the goal posts though

YSMACK

1/15/21 12:19am

Actually, I never established any goal posts.

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:24am

Oh brother. What you said establishes goal posts.

YSMACK

1/15/21 8:56am

I never cited any metrics in my original comment. "Played better" is pretty

ldssdl

1/15/21 11:37am

Knell has played better than Harding; Harding > Johnson, whose TO rate remains

roseyscenario

1/15/21 5:32am

Explain how Knell didn’t play great. I thought he did. Hit the one three we made

gp232

1/14/21 11:53pm

Good point about that shot he missed, but almost made — it was epic.

YSMACK

1/15/21 12:14am

Great? No. He was finally serviceable.

1/15/21 12:15am

Knell was pretty good. Hit some big shots when we needed it.

LifeLongLakerFan

1/15/21 6:55am

I think it might involve Johnson & Connor more than Knell.

SinkingQuffa

1/14/21 11:51pm

IMO they should just pick two of the three

puntersarepeople

1/14/21 11:53pm

We need Johnson's brother. Keep him happy.

1/14/21 11:54pm

We need Spencer's length & handles right now. At least when they work.

SinkingQuffa

1/14/21 11:57pm

Harding has looked slower than Knell and Johnson this year.

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:04am

I agree. Our rotations have been weird at the 2-3 all year.

SinkingQuffa

1/15/21 12:07am

Averette has been much better than Harding or Knell

puntersarepeople

1/15/21 12:15am

Overall, probably, but he also makes some of the worst plays out of anyone on

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:20am

I get that but Averette forces the issue inside in a way nobody else does and is

puntersarepeople

1/15/21 12:26am

Him forcing the issue inside is a double edged sword. It frequently leads to

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:31am

It’s not the two edged sword you seem to think it is

puntersarepeople

1/15/21 9:06am

All that being said, BA does seem to have a knack for the clutch offensively.

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:37am

In a lot of ways, yes. He's a better ball handler & quicker on D, no question.

SinkingQuffa

1/15/21 12:39am

Really don’t like the second guessing & advocating that certain players deserve this or that.

Soupie

1/15/21 12:54am

They live a world apart. Especially in Pope's locker room.

SinkingQuffa

1/15/21 1:04am

Johnson’s production has fallen off recently

puntersarepeople

1/15/21 9:07am

I'm well aware of that. His role got a bit reduced before the drop-off, though.

SinkingQuffa

1/15/21 9:48am

Johnson & Knell minutes to date are almost identical and the metrics favor Knell

roseyscenario

1/15/21 2:16pm

I agree but they also could play Johnson more IMO

puntersarepeople

1/15/21 2:28pm

Johnson is by far a better overall player than Knell. Defense is a thing

NowIsTheTime

1/15/21 4:18pm

Of what metrics are you talking? Certainly not the kind that stops on defense &

SinkingQuffa

1/15/21 3:05pm

Check out kenpom.com. Knell offensive efficiency is outstanding at 115.7,

roseyscenario

1/15/21 3:25pm

Rosey, you're obviously a family member of Knell's.

NowIsTheTime

1/15/21 4:20pm

I heard Kolby Lee ate the last scoop of Graham Canyon right as Averrette went to Order

WP17

1/14/21 11:35pm

So not the best locker room in America...😉

coug10278

1/14/21 11:36pm

Benching Connor has motivated Paisley!! 4-D chess.

CougGolf

1/14/21 11:39pm

Thought this exact same thing. She had a great game.

Soupie

1/14/21 11:46pm

This has to be tied to Trump and impeachment, or storming the Capitol.

Q-grr

1/15/21 12:16am

Any chance it has anything to do with wade? Haven’t seen him on the bench the

wonderbred

1/15/21 12:29am

Feel bad for Harding

BYUvermont

1/15/21 1:09am

something is wrong with Harding. He isn't as quick, isn't as lockdown, and

bald man

1/15/21 6:19am

Seems to have lost his confidence.

Forzaitalia

1/15/21 9:30am

He was very tentative against St. Mary's when he was in. Something changed.

Lance71

1/15/21 1:43pm

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