Feel bad for Harding

Jan 15, 2021
1:09:13am

BYUvermont Starter

but he seemed to played better as a Freshman than he is right now. Out of position, weak man defense, and moving like molasses around the basket on offense. Hope something changes soon

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Pope just said this team has overcome some major lockerroom problems last 2 days

brazilcoug

1/14/21 11:33pm

My guess is Connor Harding had to come to terms that Knell needed to start.

brazilcoug

1/14/21 11:34pm

That was what I thought from gushing about Harding's attitude of late as well

rggee

1/14/21 11:34pm

Still don't understand why that would be a major problem & Knell didnt play well

coug10278

1/14/21 11:38pm

Guys take pride in being starters. Takes a lot of humility to step down because

brazilcoug

1/14/21 11:40pm

Agree with the humility part but "major" lockeroom problem. Pope does think BIG

coug10278

1/14/21 11:42pm

He’s passionate and probably not easy to get a guy like Connor to step down.

brazilcoug

1/14/21 11:43pm

Knell wasn’t perfect, but he played better compared to Harding almost any game

ldssdl

1/14/21 11:44pm

Played much better during 2nd H scoring run but so did most...1st half was bad

coug10278

1/14/21 11:47pm

So was George in the first half

puntersarepeople

1/14/21 11:52pm

He shot 1-2 in the first half, no turnovers.

ldssdl

1/14/21 11:55pm

His shooting threat was definitely needed and helped.

YSMACK

1/15/21 12:15am

Not really.

YSMACK

1/15/21 12:12am

First game was against a DII school, and the second opponent wasn’t much better.

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:15am

Now you're moving the goal posts though

YSMACK

1/15/21 12:19am

Actually, I never established any goal posts.

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:24am

Oh brother. What you said establishes goal posts.

YSMACK

1/15/21 8:56am

I never cited any metrics in my original comment. "Played better" is pretty

ldssdl

1/15/21 11:37am

Knell has played better than Harding; Harding > Johnson, whose TO rate remains

roseyscenario

1/15/21 5:32am

Explain how Knell didn’t play great. I thought he did. Hit the one three we made

gp232

1/14/21 11:53pm

Good point about that shot he missed, but almost made — it was epic.

YSMACK

1/15/21 12:14am

Great? No. He was finally serviceable.

rivercitycoug

1/15/21 12:15am

Knell was pretty good. Hit some big shots when we needed it.

LifeLongLakerFan

1/15/21 6:55am

I think it might involve Johnson & Connor more than Knell.

SinkingQuffa

1/14/21 11:51pm

IMO they should just pick two of the three

puntersarepeople

1/14/21 11:53pm

We need Johnson's brother. Keep him happy.

dYrtbYkerYder

1/14/21 11:54pm

We need Spencer's length & handles right now. At least when they work.

SinkingQuffa

1/14/21 11:57pm

Harding has looked slower than Knell and Johnson this year.

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:04am

I agree. Our rotations have been weird at the 2-3 all year.

SinkingQuffa

1/15/21 12:07am

Averette has been much better than Harding or Knell

puntersarepeople

1/15/21 12:15am

Overall, probably, but he also makes some of the worst plays out of anyone on

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:20am

I get that but Averette forces the issue inside in a way nobody else does and is

puntersarepeople

1/15/21 12:26am

Him forcing the issue inside is a double edged sword. It frequently leads to

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:31am

It’s not the two edged sword you seem to think it is

puntersarepeople

1/15/21 9:06am

All that being said, BA does seem to have a knack for the clutch offensively.

ldssdl

1/15/21 12:37am

In a lot of ways, yes. He's a better ball handler & quicker on D, no question.

SinkingQuffa

1/15/21 12:39am

Really don’t like the second guessing & advocating that certain players deserve this or that.

Soupie

1/15/21 12:54am

They live a world apart. Especially in Pope's locker room.

SinkingQuffa

1/15/21 1:04am

Johnson’s production has fallen off recently

puntersarepeople

1/15/21 9:07am

I'm well aware of that. His role got a bit reduced before the drop-off, though.

SinkingQuffa

1/15/21 9:48am

Johnson & Knell minutes to date are almost identical and the metrics favor Knell

roseyscenario

1/15/21 2:16pm

I agree but they also could play Johnson more IMO

puntersarepeople

1/15/21 2:28pm

Johnson is by far a better overall player than Knell. Defense is a thing

NowIsTheTime

1/15/21 4:18pm

Of what metrics are you talking? Certainly not the kind that stops on defense &

SinkingQuffa

1/15/21 3:05pm

Check out kenpom.com. Knell offensive efficiency is outstanding at 115.7,

roseyscenario

1/15/21 3:25pm

Rosey, you're obviously a family member of Knell's.

NowIsTheTime

1/15/21 4:20pm

I heard Kolby Lee ate the last scoop of Graham Canyon right as Averrette went to Order

WP17

1/14/21 11:35pm

So not the best locker room in America...😉

coug10278

1/14/21 11:36pm

Benching Connor has motivated Paisley!! 4-D chess.

CougGolf

1/14/21 11:39pm

Thought this exact same thing. She had a great game.

Soupie

1/14/21 11:46pm

This has to be tied to Trump and impeachment, or storming the Capitol.

Q-grr

1/15/21 12:16am

Any chance it has anything to do with wade? Haven’t seen him on the bench the

wonderbred

1/15/21 12:29am

Feel bad for Harding

BYUvermont

1/15/21 1:09am

something is wrong with Harding. He isn't as quick, isn't as lockdown, and

bald man

1/15/21 6:19am

Seems to have lost his confidence.

Forzaitalia

1/15/21 9:30am

He was very tentative against St. Mary's when he was in. Something changed.

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