Based on dependability (problems per 100), Kia beats Toyota. Buick and Cadillac only slightly behind Toyota. Lexus #1

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Jul 21, 2021
10:43:59am

Beest Contributor

As someone said earlier, most brands have really improved in reliability.

Ford is in the poll, but they are way down the list with regards to problems per 100.

J.D. Power

2021 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS)

TROY, Mich.: 18 Feb. 2021 — Vehicle dependability is at an all-time high, with the overall level of problems cited by owners declining 10% from a year ago, according to the J.D. Power 2021 U.S. Vehicle Dependability StudySM (VDS), released today.

https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2021-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds

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POLL: Overall, who makes the best cars in the world?

kccougar Truly Addicted User

7/21/21 9:58am

Porsche

cougfanz

7/21/21 9:59am

This may actually be true. I was surprised to see how high they’re consistently

maxpowers

7/21/21 10:15am

Geo

Vincent's Picks

7/21/21 10:00am

Toyota and its really not close.

Backcountry

7/21/21 10:02am

Really? the last two Toyota’s I’ve had have been just Ok. Quality isn’t great

A Drew Aitch

7/21/21 10:04am

Drive train is all I care about. And with Toyota you can count on 300k.

Backcountry

7/21/21 10:12am

Mine have been incredibly expensive. I'm mixed on Toyota, for the amount spent on "routine maintenance" for my

Bert609

7/21/21 10:29am

I generally agree. Mine have had no less maintenance than other makes. I’m

Malathion

7/21/21 11:07am

Tough to work on? Expensive maintenance? Are you sure you have a toyota?

Backcountry

7/21/21 12:40pm

Yes. Toyota parts costs are horrible.

kccougar

7/21/21 1:16pm

The point of a Toyota is that you dont have to buy parts.

Backcountry

7/21/21 3:17pm

Then why do Toyota dealerships have robust parts departments?

Tokolosh

7/21/21 3:22pm

Do they? Idk. We've had like 9 Toyotas in my immediate family and we dont really

Backcountry

7/21/21 3:51pm

Yeah, I own two of the most dependable models

Bert609

7/21/21 3:41pm

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Bert609

7/21/21 3:51pm

Same. Land cruiser 100 series and 4th gen 4runner/GX470 for me. The higher end isn't any better.

Bert609

7/21/21 10:32am

Incredible how they hold their value

Carnac

7/21/21 10:05am

Because they rarely update their models. But if people like paying 2020 prices

dYrtbYkerYder

7/21/21 10:11am

I could sell my 99 4runnner now for as much as I paid for it in 2013, after

Backcountry

7/21/21 10:13am

I miss my 04 Sequoia.

Mayor of Cougartown

7/21/21 10:17am

What people like about Toyotas is avoiding the mechanic

Carnac

7/21/21 10:14am

I have an Audi A4 and a Chrysler Pacifica. Never been to a mechanic for either.

dYrtbYkerYder

7/21/21 10:18am

Yep people keep thinking about car reliability like it's still the 80s

jrob30

7/21/21 10:21am

I would've paid over $10K more for a comparable used Sienna.

dYrtbYkerYder

7/21/21 10:25am

Mileage?

Backcountry

7/21/21 10:28am

Both have around 80-90K miles on them.

dYrtbYkerYder

7/21/21 11:02am

Exactly. Thats a brand new vehicle.

Backcountry

7/21/21 12:41pm

What year is the A4? ~10 years ago I had an AllRoad. Absolutely loved it...until

m0resn0w

7/21/21 10:32am

2016

dYrtbYkerYder

7/21/21 11:02am

Um....

kccougar

7/21/21 10:12am

I had a Camry in the late 90s. Engine blew at 54000 miles, warranty was for

Monomachos

7/21/21 10:24am

No Geo option for TNT?

John Doe

7/21/21 10:02am

How different is a Geo Prizm from a Toyota Corolla?

Belboz

7/21/21 10:13am

4 tires and a steering wheel, what's the difference?

John Doe

7/21/21 3:47pm

Open the hood of a Geo Prizm and you'll see Honda stamped inside.

Belboz

7/25/21 2:59pm

Wait, Honda makes the Corolla?

John Doe

7/25/21 3:54pm

Belboz is confusing his econobox manufacturers. I’m unaware of Honda/GM collaborations. But Toyota & Gm pulled together.

Tokolosh

7/25/21 3:59pm

I know, just messing with him. There have been many collaborations with a variety of manufacturers over the years.

John Doe

7/25/21 5:53pm

I don't have my Toyotas anymore, but if we're talking globally, it's not close.

m0resn0w

7/21/21 10:02am

Your mom

macdizzle

7/21/21 10:03am

Am I the only one (apparently there are about 6 of us) that thinks that Mercedes is the easy answer?

kccougar

7/21/21 10:16am

Wow, you have the same taste in cars as Hitler. Coincidental?

Vincent's Picks

7/21/21 10:20am

Nah. Hitler was all about the Fahrvergnügen.

kccougar

7/21/21 10:22am

“You gotta hand it to the Germans! They make great cars!”

(Private)

7/21/21 11:08pm

Lol

Backcountry

7/21/21 10:28am

Having owned two of them, I don't think so

BYUMizzou

7/21/21 10:33am

I loved my C Class, but I give my Toyotas (4Runners) a slight edge. But yeah...

m0resn0w

7/21/21 10:34am

I have become a Nissan fan.

snowcat

7/21/21 10:23am

No way I'll buy Nissan, not after the way they treated Carlos Ghosn. Nissan can go under.

Division Bell

7/21/21 10:26am

For my daily driver, I've had 3 Altimas in a row

HiLife

7/21/21 10:28am

I'm on my third Maxima in a row

snowcat

7/21/21 11:16am

When they changed the body style of the Pathfinder to a soccer mom transport,

m0resn0w

7/21/21 10:36am

My last three cars have been a Dodge Durango (2004 - 2011), Kia Sorrento (2011 -

SpecialT

7/21/21 10:32am

Interesting article

IceBlue

7/21/21 10:40am

Honda

Jelly Man

7/21/21 10:41am

Based on dependability (problems per 100), Kia beats Toyota. Buick and Cadillac only slightly behind Toyota. Lexus #1

Beest

7/21/21 10:43am

This depends greatly on how one defines "best"

jaromp

7/21/21 10:45am

Apparently on CB that means nothing more than reliability.

kccougar

7/21/21 10:57am

What else matters?

Backcountry

7/21/21 12:41pm

Performance?

kccougar

7/21/21 1:16pm

Agree. Performs well to 300k

Backcountry

7/21/21 3:18pm

I don't think you will find a better made car than a Rolls Royce. That said

CanuckUte

7/21/21 10:49am

I love my Honda Civic. It’s as basic as can be but it’s so reliable. Won’t buy

Cosmo4life

7/21/21 11:50am

Goal is to get my civic to 200,000. It’s at 66,000 now

Powerbait DPM

7/21/21 4:59pm

Mazda beat out Toyota the last few years for realizability. I’ve never owned one

Cosmo4life

7/22/21 9:58am

Porsche and Bugatti

JOPE

7/22/21 10:27am

In this thread since all anyone cares about is reliability,

FieroCoug

7/25/21 4:04pm

I have a Ford Edge and it’s a complete lemon. Won’t ever buy a Ford again after

Cosmo4life

7/25/21 4:48pm

I don't even think about the SUVs and smaller cars and stuff with any brand.

FieroCoug

7/25/21 5:07pm

The SUV market is such a money maker for Ford. They eliminated all their cars

Cosmo4life

7/25/21 9:44pm

Did you verify in your owner's manual that you have to replace all 4 tires? You don't have to "just because" it's AWD

Bert609

7/25/21 9:50pm

My sister in law just got some kind of settlement from Ford on her vehicle which had tons of problems. See my post above

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