I think those revenue numbers are too high.

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Sep 8, 2021
11:17:52am

shoganai Intervention Needed

I doubt first tier revenue reaches $20M. Would be very happy to be wrong.

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Written detailed report by Baylor Insider David Smoak this morning.

Gentleman Stan

9/8/21 11:05am

If they add more after UT/OU depart, I’d prefer they look west, not to Memphis.

rivercitycoug

9/8/21 11:07am

Agree. I'd much rather see Boise St. and either Colorado St. or San Diego St.

mellomike

9/8/21 12:17pm

No on SDSU. CSU has potential, and this would be a game changer for them.

cosmohio

9/8/21 1:01pm

If they can't rise to the top in their current circumstances with their peers, throwing money at it won't help them.

molodyets

9/8/21 2:02pm

Yes it will

chazen

9/8/21 2:16pm

Agreed. I know SDSU fans suck, but their basketball is top of MWC.

HONOMO

9/8/21 4:10pm

No, on so many levels. They have two ranked football finishes in history:

Gentleman Stan

9/8/21 5:29pm

I'd take that over CSU or the school in Idaho with a 22K enrollment.

HONOMO

9/8/21 6:15pm

Col. State has been good before. SDSU never panned out.

Shawarma

9/8/21 7:38pm

The only one from your comment I am even slightly interested in is BSU. SDSU was

IceCreamButt

9/8/21 1:07pm

Bsu & SDSU

Tuskaloosa Cougar

9/8/21 1:09pm

Probably a pipe dream but I’d love to see Nebraska back in the fold

Srg

9/8/21 2:32pm

Bring back Air Force!...and Colorado State

Shawarma

9/8/21 3:14pm

Been listening to him since this whole thing started. He seems like a really

BlueVU

9/8/21 11:07am

Link to the report?

BostonCougar

9/8/21 11:08am

It's in the OP.

Gentleman Stan

9/8/21 11:09am

Must be in a FO thread as I'm not able to see it.

BostonCougar

9/8/21 11:37am

No, the OP has a link to the article at the bottom. It's not a link to another CB thread.

dilbert

9/8/21 12:22pm

Right. Thanks.

BostonCougar

9/8/21 12:29pm

Didnt see anything about full vs partial payout for new additions?

panacablue

9/8/21 11:10am

IF the start date is correct, will be interesting to see how they schedule

HoustonTXCoug

9/8/21 11:10am

This is like perfect scenario for BYU!

Cougar TD

9/8/21 11:11am

personally, I don't like the 2 year wait- loses the shine

1984coug

9/8/21 11:12am

I'd like to be in tomorrow also, but it gives time to start building depth via

Mexicougazul

9/8/21 11:13am

It’ll be interesting to see if there’s an uptick in transfers from Utah

bigbossbyu

9/8/21 11:16am

Why would there be an uptick in transfers?

NotTokolosh

9/8/21 12:01pm

RE: Why would there be an uptick in transfers?

CougarTailDevourer

9/8/21 12:18pm

RE: Why would there be an uptick in transfers?

NotTokolosh

9/8/21 12:36pm

Don't ask dumb questions if you don't want dumb answers.

ReggaeCoug

9/8/21 2:12pm

Who are these kids? Or is this just conjecture?

NotTokolosh

9/8/21 2:23pm

Players like Puka and Samson Nacua.

SierraCoug

9/8/21 3:54pm

They didn’t transfer to play P5.

NotTokolosh

9/9/21 2:18pm

That wasn't your question.

SierraCoug

9/9/21 2:33pm

If it was next year, I think we see a bump... two years kids might be like

1984coug

9/8/21 11:18am

Send them on a mission trip!

TrueBlue67

9/8/21 12:11pm

I’ve seen it estimated (since nobody really knows) that BYU was at least keeping

Corn Pop

9/8/21 11:16am

wow $42M per team in revenue?

Huge Manatee

9/8/21 11:17am

I think those revenue numbers are too high.

shoganai

9/8/21 11:17am

I think it's optimistic, but depends on bids.

Madam Pattirini

9/8/21 11:19am

The new market deals are crazy high, so wouldn't surprise me if it is correct. Networks need live content.

Turnpike Lane

9/8/21 11:20am

You’ve been dead wrong before so…🤷‍♂️

kotacoug

9/8/21 11:21am

RE: You’ve been dead wrong before so…🤷‍♂️

shoganai

9/8/21 11:22am

Agree

TNT

9/8/21 11:23am

Smoak is extremely well connected, and has a national following. Likely that he

Gentleman Stan

9/8/21 11:26am

Agreed. I’ll go with his number and not the guess from the guy who posts

Turbo

9/8/21 11:52am

They probably seem high relative to what other leagues are currently getting.

Junior Deputy

9/8/21 11:28am

Yep the difference between $10M for the remainers to $24M by adding 4 seems off.

NotTokolosh

9/8/21 12:03pm

Agree.. something is way off.

charles

9/8/21 1:10pm

Is $24M the amount the remaining 8 will get? Maybe the estimate assumes 12 teams

tyrwhite

9/8/21 1:25pm

I think the implication is $24M per team.

NotTokolosh

9/8/21 1:50pm

Closer to $15M

jimmything

9/8/21 2:45pm

I wonder if that's the fourteen teams with ou/ut still there...

SoBlueitHurts

9/9/21 12:40am

No. That is the projected contract in 2025 after they are set to leave.

Six Foot Seven

9/9/21 4:51am

But the contract was negotiated with Texas and Oklahoma in the conference. We

Shawarma

9/9/21 6:01am

You obviously didn't read the article.

Six Foot Seven

9/9/21 6:51am

RE: You obviously didn't read the article.

SoBlueitHurts

9/9/21 11:45pm

Article sources are estimating a $48M annual drop in TV revenue due to TX and OU

Six Foot Seven

9/10/21 4:03am

Hope their estimates are close. Would be great.

SoBlueitHurts

9/10/21 2:01pm

So we’re looking at minimum $40mill/yr plus ncaa, championship game, playoff $….

kotacoug

9/8/21 11:20am

Can we put a facade on the stadium? And re-do the outside of the MC to match the annex and BYUtv building? The inside is

zonacougar

9/8/21 11:33am

And then add this to the roof:

zonacougar

9/8/21 11:44am

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kC Cougar

9/8/21 1:56pm

Stadium chair seating Reno on LES…

kotacoug

9/8/21 12:17pm

Football better get the lion's share. The are the reason for the increase.

Cougar TD

9/8/21 11:44am

Not even close to that number.

jimmything

9/9/21 8:48pm

I'd be more interested in USF than Memphis or Boise

(Private)

9/8/21 11:21am

UCF will fight that but it is the right move.

kudzucoug

9/8/21 11:51am

Until USF builds an on campus stadium and actually commits, no. Can’t take projects.

molodyets

9/8/21 12:02pm

Right. I believe they are building on campus stadium for second round intoBig12

(Private)

9/8/21 12:11pm

If this report is to be believed, the drop-off in tier 1 TV revenue is

Loafer

9/8/21 11:22am

Voting needing to be unanimous implies that UT and OU are voting and always in

LaserCoug

9/8/21 11:32am

SMOAK!

Kilgore Trout

9/8/21 11:33am

This is pretty good info. BYU will see a major jump in $$$

LakeshowCougs

9/8/21 11:54am

RE: Written detailed report by Baylor Insider David Smoak this morning.

Avery

9/8/21 11:56am

Hard to believe $10M/yr TV money for current 8 and $25M/yr with new 4 added in.

Y-Phile

9/8/21 11:57am

Probably just available inventory bumps things up

LaserCoug

9/8/21 12:01pm

It’s available inventory, plus also relative to AAC deal - which will have to be redone

molodyets

9/8/21 12:03pm

I'm guessing.... But maybe it's because of

Adrielle

9/8/21 12:04pm

Adding good markets, inventory increases, BYU does bring value

Cougar TD

9/8/21 12:17pm

Rolling BYU’s ESPN and the delta of a revamped AAC deal into the lot.

BYUHgrad

9/8/21 2:07pm

The AAC was worth $7M/yr and included teams like Temple, Tulane, and Tulsa.

DescendentCoug

9/8/21 3:39pm

So he's saying teams are only taking a $5M/yr cut with TX/OU gone? Crazy.

HONOMO

9/8/21 1:08pm

the money only makes since to me if the other P5 conf are going to increase on

Ryan M

9/8/21 1:22pm

Sorry, no way this is true

kapcreations

9/8/21 1:30pm

No, he's saying if they expand past the 4, those are the next 2

cougfan03

9/8/21 1:53pm

One thing: If we’re totally responsible for tier 3, does this mean more BYUtv

TerpCoug

9/8/21 1:59pm

I would love for BYUtv to cover non-FB and BB sports more.

BYUHgrad

9/8/21 2:09pm

They’re estimating $15 Million for tier 3 TV rights, I doubt BYU TV is going to

cal

9/8/21 2:01pm

I wanna join in 2022!

Ham

9/8/21 2:43pm

Where there's Smoak...

andrewg3

9/8/21 3:16pm

Please not Memphis.

ditch

9/8/21 5:16pm

Before Memphis — USF, Tulane, any service academy, BSU, CSU, SDSU, UNM, UNLV etc

bruincoug

9/8/21 8:34pm

I'd take UTEP before Memphis lol.

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