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Sep 20, 2021
11:33:10am

kimdaddy35 Future Lions Scout

BYU has tried like 2500 PATs in the last 50 years and none of them have been blocked and returned for TDs.

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So the call to not kick the extra point and take a knee was Lamb's call.

Cougar TD

9/20/21 11:22am

correct - and I think it's the wrong call. Better to be up 11 points.

HarlemCoug

9/20/21 11:23am

If they block and return it you are only up 8 points, 1 score

Hawk Talons

9/20/21 11:24am

Wouldn't have been the first time that day it happened.

Byron McNertney

9/20/21 11:26am

It was the correct call.

SoCalCoug

9/20/21 11:25am

Single smartest call of the game. We can agree to disagree.

BYUforlife

9/20/21 11:25am

Agreed.

ratherberoping

9/20/21 12:53pm

Agreed as in you agree to disagree or agreed as in it was the right call?

CornfedCougar

9/20/21 2:40pm

Absolutely the right call. Very savvy. Play the odds.

ratherberoping

9/20/21 4:34pm

It was a great call.

oldrugger

9/20/21 5:08pm

Little advantage to 11 with time left. Risk (very slight but present) of a return for 2 pts to ASU

CougPrime

9/20/21 11:25am

What?!?! It was absolutely the right call.

cambo

9/20/21 11:26am

Better to win by 11 then 10......

TheHop

9/20/21 11:26am

Nice Crowton reference.

ebv

9/20/21 12:44pm

It's better to win by 8 then 9 then 10.

RobAdams

9/20/21 12:53pm

But we won by nine against Utah then ten

vancouvercougar

9/20/21 12:55pm

No reason to take any chances. It's better to take a knee.

Jeffacka

9/20/21 11:26am

He said if there was over 2 minutes left you kick, but under 2, the slim chance

BYUtka

9/20/21 11:27am

A return botched PAT is 2 points and makes it a one possession game. There's no added value from that PAT.

Indy Coug

9/20/21 11:27am

Or just go for 2 if you’re worried about the kick. A 12-pt lead makes it 2 TDs

Odysseus

9/20/21 11:28am

That's even easier to return for 2 (scoop and score or pick 6)

darkcoug

9/20/21 11:29am

Exactly

cambo

9/20/21 11:30am

Not when you don’t have to force it. Throw it away if need be and you’re in the

Odysseus

9/20/21 11:33am

Wouldn't it be a pick 2 in that scenario? 🙂

InlandEmpYre

9/20/21 12:47pm

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LosAlcoug

9/20/21 11:30am

It was the right call. “You play to win the game.” BYU’s chances of winning were greatest by kneeling.

rainorsnow

9/20/21 11:30am

LOL, you used a quote that has everything to do with being aggressive and try to use it as means to justify

kimdaddy35

9/20/21 11:58am

RE: LOL, you used a quote that has everything to do with being aggressive and

darthoatmeal

9/20/21 12:43pm

I think it's more likely to score a FG/TD and then get an onside kick in college

CougarCanuck76

9/20/21 11:33am

Better to win by 9 than 2, right?

NorCal_Coug

9/20/21 11:34am

Gary is that you?

claw

9/20/21 11:39am

You can't say it is the "wrong call". You may not agree with it nor the reasoning behind it but it isn't wrong.

TheLoneCougar

9/20/21 11:44am

I think it was meaningless.

JuicyJam

9/20/21 12:17pm

Depends on when that happens. If there is more time on the clock, you kick it,

Thrill

9/20/21 12:57pm

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conetah

9/20/21 1:26pm

Absolutely the right call

mendoncoug

9/20/21 1:43pm

RE: correct - and I think it's the wrong call. Better to be up 11 points.

akbarishiwatsu

9/20/21 2:49pm

and....you would be wrong!

AzCugrFan

9/20/21 3:55pm

What a dumb move. Give Justen some practice.

MajorZeus

9/20/21 11:24am

And extend the lead

MajorZeus

9/20/21 11:24am

Smart call

2FarGone

9/20/21 11:24am

2 scenarios - which is more likely? 1. blocked extra point run back for 2, then td, then 2 point conversion sends the

HarlemCoug

9/20/21 11:29am

You might be right if the clock wasn't a factor. With only 1:19 left in the game

LosAlcoug

9/20/21 11:34am

I think this is a fair point. Little clock (and importantly they didn't have any timeouts left) probably means Lamb

HarlemCoug

9/20/21 11:37am

Huge leg? Commentators were saying that 40 yds was just within his range.

ebv

9/20/21 12:45pm

the guy who did their kickoffs sent one through our goal posts. It nearly hit a cheerleader on the fly.

HarlemCoug

9/20/21 12:59pm

Kickoffs and FGs are very different

gaffer

9/20/21 1:51pm

Time is the big factor here...

TheRowdy

9/20/21 1:45pm

A complete and total lack of faith in the kicking game

kimdaddy35

9/20/21 11:25am

he is the special teams coach, maybe he knows why he should have a lack of faith in protection

2FarGone

9/20/21 11:26am

Maybe which is sad he can't do his job better. It isn't hard to make extra points.

kimdaddy35

9/20/21 11:26am

No. Smart call. Take away even the small risk.

SoCalCoug

9/20/21 11:26am

Bigger risk of returning the kickoff for a TD and then getting the onside kick and making a field goal.

kimdaddy35

9/20/21 11:34am

It's just a smart move. BYU did the same thing after beck to harline. Yeah, the

LiveCoug

9/20/21 11:26am

To go up 11 points so an onside kick and field goal don't beat you. This is a very different situation

kimdaddy35

9/20/21 11:35am

The concept is still similar. It was the right call. I would've been just fine

LiveCoug

9/20/21 11:41am

It's not a lack of faith.

cougfan03

9/20/21 11:27am

The chances of getting a field goal and TD with 80 seconds left are higher.

kimdaddy35

9/20/21 11:33am

It has nothing to do with a lack of faith in the kicking game.

cambo

9/20/21 11:27am

It would seem there are some who wouldn't know a smart decision

SoCalCoug

9/20/21 11:29am

Posts like these are why you are almost universally unliked on this this board

kimdaddy35

9/20/21 11:41am

Looks like at least 2 like me, so it's not universal.

SoCalCoug

9/20/21 4:18pm

2 like your post

kimdaddy35

9/20/21 4:56pm

It happened earlier in the day with OU and Nebraska.

TheLoneCougar

9/20/21 11:43am

And a comeback from far worse happened on Friday night in high school football

kimdaddy35

9/20/21 12:00pm

It is a safe play. Recency bias or not. A little too conservative for my blood, sure. But fine for them to call.

TheLoneCougar

9/20/21 1:25pm

It’s not lack of faith. It was a strategic decision. I’m 50-50 on whether it

Big Daddy D

9/20/21 12:21pm

I think they were more worried about a TD being scored off a blocked kick. Why

BlooCoog

9/20/21 12:51pm

As Riley pointed out after the game, Obviously Lamb had just seen the OU/NE game earlier in the day.

kccougar

9/20/21 2:22pm

It had nothing to do with that. It was a super smart call.

dave

9/20/21 2:34pm

I didn’t care for it. Better odds of those kids dying of COVID than an XP return

rivercitycoug

9/20/21 11:25am

The exact thing happened in a game right before

LiveCoug

9/20/21 11:28am

Really? I can’t even recall the last time I saw it.

rivercitycoug

9/20/21 11:31am

Oklahoma Nebraska

LiveCoug

9/20/21 11:32am

Link

Fdnman

9/20/21 12:42pm

The odds of it happening twice in one day are so low though!

ryebrye

9/20/21 11:41am

NBD. I see why they did it, but the game was sealed at that point.

Jazzyturtle

9/20/21 11:26am

The chances of getting that blocked and ran back for 2 is slim...but, then again

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

9/20/21 11:27am

Not just the block, also protecting against running back the kickoff. Right call

ray ray

9/20/21 12:52pm

Good. It was the right call. The only chance that ASU had at that point

Corn Pop

9/20/21 11:27am

Yep, 0% chance is better than any chance, no matter how unlikely that chance is.

BYUtka

9/20/21 11:28am

The other chance they had was return the kickoff, 2 pt conversion, onside kick

ray ray

9/20/21 12:54pm

This is absolutely the correct call.

ragid

9/20/21 11:28am

Not a 'smart' call, but showed good sportsmanship.

Doogal McCougar

9/20/21 11:29am

RE: Not a 'smart' call, but showed good sportsmanship.

LosAlcoug

9/20/21 11:31am

RE: Not a 'smart' call, but showed good sportsmanship.

LiveCoug

9/20/21 11:32am

RE: Not a 'smart' call, but showed good sportsmanship.

TheHop

9/20/21 11:33am

Dude was just going for symmetry. AZ win by 8, UT win by 9, ASU win by 10.

jvquarterback

9/20/21 11:32am

This is the right answer

dilbert

9/20/21 11:35am

RE: So the call to not kick the extra point and take a knee was Lamb's call.

jjshol1126

9/20/21 11:45am

Logical but weird call.

Bluedomination

9/20/21 11:52am

That was a brilliant call. Didn't even know it was possible before they did it.

BleedCougarBlue2

9/20/21 11:53am

Neither brilliant nor stupid but a defensible strategic move by an excellent AHC

Forzaitalia

9/20/21 12:01pm

It was a great call.

CougarThug

9/20/21 12:35pm

Wow, this all goes to show how difficult it is to get even people of same

AF_Puma

9/20/21 12:41pm

What scenario is more likely?

HoustonBYUCoug

9/20/21 12:47pm

Or #3, kick extra point, kickoff return to the house, 2 pt conversion, onside

ray ray

9/20/21 12:58pm

Did coaches say this was a strategic decision? I thought it was sportsmanship

Doogal McCougar

9/20/21 1:31pm

Well....it is his job to have a kicker that can make an extra point.

byubyu

9/20/21 1:14pm

if this is the right call, why don't teams do it more often?

Hill4Heisman

9/20/21 1:28pm

1) The scenario is uncommon. 2) They haven't thought about it.

dYrtbYkerYder

9/20/21 1:34pm

It was a calculated call that's it. Neither good nor bad.

ImuaKahuku

9/20/21 1:44pm

Can we agree that it was WAAAYYY conservative considering the 3rd down call?

StalwartBraveTrue

9/20/21 2:09pm

Dumb decision, unless they don’t have confidence in their PAT operations

GeraldGarner

9/20/21 2:10pm

Addendum: the football Gods rightfully punish teams who play “not to lose.”

GeraldGarner

9/20/21 2:12pm

Great call and gutsy!

Cougarpride

9/20/21 2:25pm

RE: So the call to not kick the extra point and take a knee was Lamb's call.

ffcougarfan

9/20/21 2:26pm

Wrong call if Oldroyd is healthy but he’s not, so good call.

IntelCougar

9/20/21 2:39pm

It was the right call for the circumstance. Yes the odds were very low that the

26scemo

9/20/21 4:51pm

I liked the call.

BrentMouritsen

9/23/21 6:36pm

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