Yes, with 4 turnovers, the defense lost us the game.

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Oct 11, 2021
1:19:42pm

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Incentivize

Previous username: cvore
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My frustration with the BYU defense

reddead

10/11/21 1:08pm

RE: My frustration with the BYU defense

Benfica1

10/11/21 1:09pm

"Defense wins championships"

reddead

10/11/21 1:23pm

You sir are correct.

The_Cuss

10/11/21 3:57pm

Which is exactly why BYU will win ZERO championships with Tuiaki at DC.

TrueBlue67

10/11/21 4:13pm

This is the way

The_Cuss

10/11/21 4:18pm

You kids are just being silly now.

Benfica1

10/11/21 4:52pm

Let's compare notes in 5 years.

TrueBlue67

10/11/21 4:56pm

Independence has cost BYU more titles than the D. The 2017 D cost BYU a NC.

Benfica1

10/11/21 5:02pm

Talk about getting into the weeds...

TrueBlue67

10/11/21 5:13pm

Exactly. Great response to his ridiculous response.

The_Cuss

10/11/21 9:15pm

You don’t understand. We aren’t saying the defense lost the game. The offense

The_Cuss

10/11/21 9:14pm

TNT is going to go ahead and not argue with this post

TNT

10/11/21 1:11pm

What if I say that I DARE YOU to argue with this post?

Cougar TD

10/11/21 1:12pm

Oh yeah? Welcome to the ignore list pal!

TNT

10/11/21 1:13pm

RE: Oh yeah? Welcome to the ignore list pal!

Cougar TD

10/11/21 1:16pm

Hahaha

The_Cuss

10/11/21 3:57pm

I'm not defending what they do, but the constant rotation of players is designed

BlueCoug

10/11/21 1:17pm

Is it working? TNT isn't really seeing it so far

TNT

10/11/21 1:17pm

I don't think so.

BlueCoug

10/11/21 1:22pm

100% it's working! Look at all the timeouts...we've had to use on D, wait a sec!

moknowssports

10/11/21 2:07pm

How many defensive substitutions flags have been thrown because of this?

gmj81

10/11/21 1:21pm

I understand that in theory. What I see in practice is tired DBs committing PI

reddead

10/11/21 1:25pm

You think offense doesn’t sub? They sub to respond to offense rotation

Bobmarleyjr

10/11/21 3:53pm

They're 23rd in turnovers forced — and that's even with 0 turnovers forced against BSU

Indy Coug

10/11/21 1:17pm

This fact will forever be ignored. It doesn't fit the narrative.

rad dawg

10/11/21 1:44pm

BYU is #63 in tackles for loss per game. And #66 in sacks per game.

The_Cuss

10/11/21 4:10pm

Also, the defensive scheme guarantees that the game will be close. Every game so

Hinta

10/11/21 1:18pm

Another good point. "Close games" is a two-edged sword

reddead

10/11/21 1:25pm

Yep. No blowout wins. No blowout losses...

lbmango

10/11/21 4:47pm

That is true, his system works 2/6 times. The D played well against UT and ASU

The_Cuss

10/11/21 9:25pm

We know Tuiaki can call an aggressive D, I just wish he would do it more

Hinta

10/11/21 9:29pm

Yes, with 4 turnovers, the defense lost us the game.

Incentivize

10/11/21 1:19pm

So we all just learned that reading isn’t your strong suit

GigantorCat

10/11/21 1:23pm

What I've learned is despite a defense with a ton of takeaways and great scorin

Incentivize

10/11/21 2:12pm

So you're just doubling down that you didn't read the OP. Got it.

GigantorCat

10/11/21 2:15pm

Why post if you’re not even going to read what you’re replying to?

Tuiakismother

10/11/21 1:38pm

No, but when your DC doesn't make in game adjustments to his scheme and your

BE-WHY-YOU

10/11/21 1:42pm

Plus the two 'turnovers' on downs....

Benfica1

10/11/21 2:50pm

The D’a scheme is a lazy scheme designed to protect the DC from having to make

kotacoug

10/11/21 1:25pm

For a tooth extractor you have some good insights

TNT

10/11/21 1:28pm

Yet another bad take spewing verifiably false "insights"

rad dawg

10/11/21 1:26pm

With the game on the line against a competent offense, do you have confidence?

reddead

10/11/21 1:45pm

Well since its already happened multiple times as indicated in my post, yes I do

rad dawg

10/11/21 1:54pm

But BYU hasn't been getting late stops; I went game-by-game in the comment above

reddead

10/11/21 1:59pm

Now you are shifting the goal posts.

rad dawg

10/11/21 2:10pm

I think you're oversimplifying my point

reddead

10/11/21 2:35pm

Absolutely right, you won't force 3 and out every drive. But the offense can't

gmj81

10/11/21 2:04pm

Again, I understand the sentiment but its a verifiably false take.

rad dawg

10/11/21 2:31pm

The defensive scheme is made to preserve a lead

teancum

10/11/21 1:32pm

The frustrating thing is we saw a departure from this for 2.5 games that was

gmj81

10/11/21 1:44pm

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