So, he's a John Walsh, but with legs. I like it

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Wow, Jaren

mjmill All-American

12/3/21 1:35pm

Good data. I'd like to see best season, regardless of class year.

snowbird

12/3/21 1:37pm

Found it. 30th overall. That puts him around 2014 Christian Stewart efficiency,

snowbird

12/3/21 1:39pm

Wait what? Jaren Hall 156 against very good competition. Christian Stewart 138 against poor competition

kimdaddy35

12/3/21 1:49pm

You're right. I was erroneously looking at total yards, not pass efficiency.

snowbird

12/3/21 2:07pm

Nice. McMahon was a cheat code. 176 is an absurd number for a 1st yr starter.

d-coug

12/3/21 1:38pm

McMahon didn’t have DB blitzes and LBs couldn’t really cover

Bobmarleyjr

12/3/21 2:24pm

If it was so simple, QBs from McMahon’s era @ other schools would have similar #

reddead

12/3/21 6:04pm

McMahon's records started falling just a couple years after he left.

Y05

12/3/21 6:18pm

We're talking about pass efficiency, not records. Did other QBs match his eff %?

reddead

12/3/21 9:01pm

How would it be so simple when most teams didn’t know or want to pass?

Bobmarleyjr

12/3/21 11:51pm

In 1980, McMahon was 3.3 standard deviations above the mean for passer rating.

Spiff

12/3/21 8:01pm

My point was teams were geared for run stopping. Almost 0 rush ends etc

Bobmarleyjr

12/3/21 11:52pm

Sorry. I didn't realize your argument was meant to diminish his accomplishments. My bad. I'll move along. Enjoy.

Spiff

12/4/21 8:26am

Baylor Romney was triple that, fwiw.

DieHarder

12/3/21 1:40pm

Baylor Romney had a season as the starter?

kimdaddy35

12/3/21 1:47pm

Technically Hall didn't have a full season either.

ochobeeguy

12/3/21 1:57pm

10 games vs 1 1/2 games?

kimdaddy35

12/3/21 2:11pm

You obviously don't know what technically means...

ochobeeguy

12/3/21 4:25pm

Baylor’s QB rating was 450? You sure you’re looking at right stat?

gww687

12/3/21 2:32pm

He’s been good, but I will point out that there has been significant inflation in passing efficiency over the years

Odysseus

12/3/21 1:42pm

150

Big12Yfan

12/3/21 1:49pm

I’d rather have $1 in 1982 than $1 in 2021. A 150 rating doesn’t get you as much today as it did 40 years ago

Odysseus

12/3/21 1:51pm

It gets you 10-2 and in the discussion for a NY6

Big12Yfan

12/3/21 2:11pm

RE: It gets you 10-2 and in the discussion for a NY6

Odysseus

12/3/21 3:33pm

Name one QB from BYU in the 80s with a 140 passing efficiency

Big12Yfan

12/3/21 3:46pm

I’m not sure what you are arguing. I pointed out why comparing passer ratings across eras doesn’t tell us much. To

Odysseus

12/3/21 4:08pm

They aren’t changing the formula to inflate stats for current players

Big12Yfan

12/3/21 4:51pm

But that isn't fair in regards to BYU who was waaay ahead of the curve. When Wilson and McMahon played it was the only

kimdaddy35

12/3/21 2:15pm

Yeah, it’s tough to compare across eras - but that also makes it fun

Odysseus

12/3/21 3:43pm

It got us 6-6 in 1993 and 10-2 this year. Reverse inflation I'd say.

Y05

12/3/21 4:43pm

I guess we could talk about how many wins each QB had in their first season as a starter

Odysseus

12/3/21 5:46pm

For example, Young’s rating in ‘82 put him at #6 in the country while Hall’s is outside the top 20

Odysseus

12/3/21 1:50pm

Gets me excited to see how much better he will be next season with...

icecougar

12/3/21 1:45pm

So, he's a John Walsh, but with legs. I like it

Bob Vance

12/3/21 1:46pm

Not a bad thing, since Walsh was pretty good

Mabuhay Coug

12/3/21 2:51pm

Now imagine him against Troy, Liberty, UMASS and South Alabama instead of

Big12Yfan

12/3/21 1:51pm

Impressive, Jaren…going to be an all time great if he stays on this pace!

BlooCoog

12/3/21 2:20pm

Great list of players!

Mabuhay Coug

12/3/21 2:50pm

yeah but he underthrows on long passes

All-American

12/3/21 2:52pm

That nullified interception last game kept him just over John Walsh.

Bee Chunder

12/3/21 3:01pm

What about QBR? It Factors in running. Jaren and Taysom would be higher.

Scott_Tenorman

12/3/21 3:35pm

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Bald Eagle

12/3/21 3:37pm

LOL. Why is Wilson 79 on the list? 1st year starter, SMH.

Y05

12/3/21 4:46pm

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