the same as D1 college ball, its clearly not. But the mechanics of how someone throws a ball doesn't change if they are doing in their back yard or Lavell Edwards Stadium. Its like a golf swing, and Conover has a dang good throw, better than Hall's by a long shot. You don't have to agree with me on Conover, its just my opinion, but Nick Saban had the same opinion after seeing Conover throw.