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Aug 10, 2022
7:20:48am

wilsdad All-American

Under emphasized point.

Players know when a scheme does not work well with their talents. Tuiaki has run a scheme that devalues DLine except as block absorbers it seemed. What high end player wants to suffer in that scheme?

Post ASU last season the defensive scheme became so passive…

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wilsdad

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Logan Fano says Jan Jorgensen is doing great things for the pass rush

HRCougar

8/9/22 7:20pm

We'll have a better pass rush when we have better players.

shoganai

8/9/22 7:21pm

If the coaches teach better rushing technique than just doing a bull rush on every play, that would make a difference

Magathis

8/9/22 7:27pm

Hmmm. Are you saying our coaches only

8/9/22 10:44pm

I don’t know what our coaches know how to coach. But I know that in games I see a lot of bull rushes and not much else

Magathis

8/9/22 11:01pm

See what I started?

8/10/22 10:56pm

Good coaches will coach up players. The issue isn't talent.

ordinary tri guy

8/9/22 7:28pm

IMO, it's abundantly obvious that our D-line talent is sub-par.

shoganai

8/9/22 8:07pm

It’s both. And they feed each other. Bad coaching brings less touted recruits

8/9/22 9:27pm

Not being in a P5 dragged recruiting down.

shoganai

8/9/22 9:38pm

I see it relative to what we’ve recruited on offense

8/9/22 10:10pm

Under emphasized point.

wilsdad

8/10/22 7:20am

I think the lack of recruiting is a whole other issue.

ordinary tri guy

8/10/22 7:23am

The issue is talent.

Backcountry

8/9/22 8:13pm

You spelled isn't wrong.

ordinary tri guy

8/9/22 9:03pm

Most of the guys on our two deep on the DL did not have other FBS offers.

Kavorka

8/9/22 9:27pm

Interesting how the offense doesn’t seem to have that issue

ldssdl

8/9/22 11:21pm

Since pass rush was a specialty of Jan's, I've been hoping he would make an

Ironhide

8/9/22 8:00pm

exactly, the Jimmies and Joes are way may important then X's and O's

qwerew

8/9/22 9:04pm

It's just AWESOME to have experts on the board.

kbufcoug

8/9/22 9:21pm

Let’s be honest, it doesn’t take an expert to know that’s a big reason why.

Cnation

8/9/22 10:06pm

I disagree, technique makes a huge difference.

Vegasjohn

8/9/22 10:11pm

I’m buying. Anything different will be better.

ybecausethatswhy

8/9/22 7:21pm

Not necessarily. If I was coaching them it would be different but not better.

Traveshamockery

8/9/22 7:30pm

What about a lack of coaching previously?

8/9/22 7:35pm

It's the off season

rcbyufan

8/9/22 7:21pm

I'm sure they are flying around to the QB.

8/9/22 7:23pm

RE: Logan Fano says Jan Jorgensen is doing great things for the pass rush

cougarblue

8/9/22 7:23pm

Is his position (analyst) allowed player or recruit interaction?

BYU'01

8/9/22 7:25pm

Are they flying around the field?

Real Men Wear Blue

8/9/22 7:29pm

Considering my talks with players about the lack of coaching the d-like on

Pappyjord

8/9/22 7:30pm

Buying. Having a coach who really knows the technique will help a lot.

8/9/22 7:30pm

The coaches are the same. Jorgensen is an analyst.

BYU'01

8/9/22 7:32pm

Who can teach the coaches to utilize. A coach to the coaches basically. Whatever can help.

8/9/22 9:07pm

I don’t care if the pass rush doesn’t get better. I just want to stop allowing 5ypc and 67% 4th down conversions

scootsy

8/9/22 7:32pm

Those are related

8/9/22 7:36pm

I'm buying because it literally couldn't get any worse

mudpupper

8/9/22 7:52pm

35 points in a quarter to Dr. Bob and he still has a job. Selling.

8/9/22 7:56pm

Last year was Hadley's first year as a DE coach, right? We had underclassmen

8/9/22 8:19pm

Sell sell sell....

Coug

8/9/22 8:24pm

Buy low. There's nothing left to sell...

Rat

8/9/22 8:42pm

Are you crazy? Why would you sell this. I'm buying. Buy it all.

8/9/22 8:43pm

If a new 1st yr Analyst is able to make a difference

8/9/22 8:44pm

The d coaches have been indicted over and over again

8/9/22 9:00pm

I think Jorgensen is limited in how much time he can spend with the players

I'mBatman

8/9/22 9:25pm

Can it be worse?

Heath Squashwell

8/9/22 9:43pm

Helps to have a former dl teaching rather than former cb

BYU '80

8/9/22 10:14pm

Pass rush doesn’t do much when you drop 8

stev

8/9/22 11:13pm

Pass rush wasn't the issue; we got burned because we couldn't stop the run.

Jasbo

8/9/22 11:45pm

No sense in pass rushing if you can't get to the QB

Dr T-bone

8/10/22 8:35am

Can’t be much worse. So I would buy that it will be better.

Briguy

8/10/22 7:18am

Another inexperienced hire. Jan played well as did Detmer.

coolblue

8/10/22 7:55am

Jan is NOT too inexperienced for his position by any stretch. There's zero

fattycoug

8/10/22 8:22am

Technique can sure help. Not sure how Logan knows as he went out with a ACL in

87cougs

8/10/22 7:57am

RE: Logan Fano says Jan Jorgensen is doing great things for the pass rush

Pangare

8/10/22 12:03pm

Stock is bottomed out, nowhere to go but up. If we can get just a fraction of

Mitty

8/10/22 2:48pm

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