I don't think the number of down linemen is particularly relevant.

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Sep 19, 2022
1:11:45pm

shoganai Intervention Needed

I don't think the number of down linemen is particularly relevant.

A lot of really good Ds have a base three-linemen set. Guys like Gary Patterson and Rocky Long are long-time 3-3-5 evangelists.
Bronco switched back and forth between three and four depending on the season.

I do think Kalani and Tuiaki would prefer to go with four, but with the DL injuries we had last week, three probably made more sense.

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Tuiaki is what is he. We have enough tape. We've hit our ceiling on D with him

JDBlue

9/19/22 11:56am

I'm assuming the ceiling was the Baylor game, or the Utah/ASU games in 2021.

Zoobieman

9/19/22 12:01pm

Yep. It took me forever to see it with Bronco. Now it was obvious for a long time that he needed to move on.

mulletino

9/19/22 12:01pm

Pretty well summarized for a neurosurgeon

TNT

9/19/22 12:08pm

Before anyone gets offended on behalf of Tuiaki...

mulletino

9/19/22 12:24pm

Whoa, hold on, wait up. Its nice to hear this.

Backcountry

9/19/22 12:35pm

Well, obviously. I don't have extreme bitter feelings toward the man like some all these years later...

mulletino

9/19/22 12:36pm

But...I was right.

Backcountry

9/19/22 12:39pm

Tuiaki will never move on from Kalani. All we can hope for is an eventual lessening of responsibility & influence on D.

Spiff

9/19/22 5:57pm

Everybody realizes he's running Kalani's defense, right?

shoganai

9/19/22 12:01pm

How different is his arrangement with Kalani from other head coaches and their d coordinators? Defensive coordinators

No touching

9/19/22 12:10pm

Coordinators getting fired is usually just a precursor to the HC getting fired.

shoganai

9/19/22 12:21pm

Nebraska just fired their DC. . . I think the interim HC is going to get the ax

Zoobieman

9/19/22 12:27pm

The staff at Nebraska will probably be almost totally whitewashed when they

shoganai

9/19/22 12:29pm

Signed Kalani and Bronco... To name a few recent and relevant examples.

The_Cuss

9/19/22 12:46pm

Lol. Bronco ended up rehiring the first OC he let go. I remember how excited a

shoganai

9/19/22 12:50pm

How long did firing Jaime Hill last? That was the reference...

The_Cuss

9/19/22 12:54pm

And he ultimately replaced Hill with Nick Howell. That was not a net gain in the

shoganai

9/19/22 12:56pm

I never saw Utah run a defense like this under Kalani. I have no idea what this

Corn Pop

9/19/22 12:11pm

I agree that Kalani approves it, but resembles nothing like the defense Kalani

Rhubarb

9/19/22 12:16pm

Our players also resemble nothing like the players Kalani typically had at his

shoganai

9/19/22 12:20pm

Do you have a theory as to why that is, particularly on the d line?

No touching

9/19/22 12:29pm

I don't think it's hard to figure out.

shoganai

9/19/22 12:33pm

So why does the offense not suffer from the same thing? Goes both ways no?

The_Cuss

9/19/22 12:48pm

The offense absolutely suffers from the same thing.

shoganai

9/19/22 12:52pm

The offense was not overpowered by superior talent. Play calling was bad.

The_Cuss

9/19/22 12:57pm

I just completely disagree.

shoganai

9/19/22 1:00pm

Cool, so with the same talent as Oregon, a 3 man front can stop the run. Right?

The_Cuss

9/19/22 1:05pm

I don't think the number of down linemen is particularly relevant.

shoganai

9/19/22 1:11pm

Thats fine, but additional guys didn't come. It was frequently just 3...

The_Cuss

9/19/22 1:16pm

Nix had no trouble beating us with his arm. He had an extremely productive day

shoganai

9/19/22 1:19pm

He was 13 for 18... Oregon rushed for 222 yards. Avg over 5 yds a carry....

The_Cuss

9/19/22 1:27pm

Oregon had more passing yards than rushing yards on fewer than half the number

shoganai

9/19/22 1:44pm

Do you think that rushing attempts and passing attempts equal the same yardage?

The_Cuss

9/19/22 2:51pm

I am not the one in this conversation wearing blue goggles.

shoganai

9/19/22 3:11pm

UO 2nd string offense played in the 3rd qtr... We have better talent than that.

The_Cuss

9/19/22 3:38pm

Again, the one wearing the blue goggles here is not the one willing to admit

shoganai

9/19/22 3:55pm

"We held Oregon to 3 points once they removed their starters". Congrats I guess?

The_Cuss

9/19/22 5:36pm

The offense scored ONCE in the first 3 quarters. The final 2 scores were against

NYC and Japan

9/19/22 1:41pm

Who said the offense wasn't bad? Did you read what I wrote? LOL

The_Cuss

9/19/22 2:38pm

"offense was not overpowered by superior talent... lets be clear the offense

NYC and Japan

9/19/22 3:12pm

Again, I said the offense did not perform well... Nothing to interpret there.

The_Cuss

9/19/22 3:34pm

I guess we'll see if d line improves in the next couple years.

No touching

9/19/22 12:48pm

Nearly our entire roster needs to improve to be more than a regular also-ran in

shoganai

9/19/22 12:55pm

How much has the d-line improved over the past 7 years? There's your answer.

The_Cuss

9/19/22 12:58pm

Improved enough to go 23-5 overall, 7-2 against P5. Wins against 2 teams top 25

NYC and Japan

9/19/22 1:44pm

Thanks to the below average defense? Or despite the below average defense?

The_Cuss

9/19/22 2:41pm

You imply the defense and/ or dline have not improved in 7 years

NYC and Japan

9/19/22 3:32pm

What are you talking about? I didn't set any bars with points. You did that...

The_Cuss

9/19/22 3:41pm

I'm just amazed that out of all of the positions that seem to be the hardest to recruit for Tuiaki... it is DL...

Coug

9/19/22 12:06pm

The defense we've become used to seeing is not capable of being a .500 team in

Corn Pop

9/19/22 12:08pm

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