Hill's 1st TD is as you are describing. No pick, just crossing routes and Hill

Sep 25, 2022
2:22:12pm

RGGeemer All-American

catches it in the EZ. The one I think the pick play quesiton is about was Epps' TD, in which Hill straight up blocks the defender. But because Epps catches the ball behind the LOS (around the 3 yard line), it is a legal play.

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Really I want to know what the deal was with the officials

Big12Yfan

9/25/22 9:40am

They were horrible and I’m not one to bag on the refs.

MoodyBlueCoug

9/25/22 9:43am

Same. Except in basketball. Basketball refs are the worst.

Zaphod

9/25/22 9:45am

What conference were the refs from?

Reasonable1

9/25/22 9:43am

I think MWC. Same for Utah State.

Tank's Dad

9/25/22 9:45am

No, it's a collection of Western United States refs.

Manti

9/25/22 9:46am

Could it be these refs were the ones who couldn’t get any other games?

eyes4byu

9/25/22 12:18pm

MWC

ochobeeguy

9/25/22 9:45am

I heard they were an assortment from several conferences but

MoodyBlueCoug

9/25/22 9:46am

Assortment from MWC, Pac12, and Big12.

RootieBoy

9/25/22 9:47am

Don't forget the very questionable spots on 3rd down.

BigHouse Coug

9/25/22 9:44am

Yes, the rest was so bad I failed to mention the borderline scandalous spotting

Big12Yfan

9/25/22 9:46am

Lol Tom isn’t going to do anything

maxpowers

9/25/22 10:23am

This is an area I wish BYU would have more backbone. There’s a difference

here's to hoping

9/25/22 11:24am

One time their back was at least a half yard short and they gave it to them

Born2Fish

9/25/22 9:56am

For sure. It was not even close.

King of Y

9/25/22 1:09pm

Closer to one yard short. It was bad

Dat_rmishner

9/25/22 1:19pm

They were instructed by ESPN, The SEC and Big 10, Craig Thompson and Craig James

pink22

9/25/22 9:44am

What a ridiculous statement

ALC

9/25/22 11:26am

I guarantee — guarantee — that ref wouldn't have called Bama or Ohio St

Manti

9/25/22 9:45am

I'm of the opinion the only post-TD celebrations that should be flagged are when

cougarfan84

9/25/22 9:48am

Yep. And that's the way they call it in most games. Those officials just

Manti

9/25/22 9:49am

Crazy part is when Wyoming scored their next TD their QB was taunting the crowd right in front of the official who

Non-mo Coug

9/25/22 10:09am

Unless it’s Jake Locker. No celebrating for him.

ACrop

9/26/22 4:09am

That’s not a guaranty.

HenderCoug

9/25/22 10:55am

Remember about 10 years ago or so when Nike started putting logos on the palms

Ackman

9/25/22 11:32am

Anyone stay up long enough to hear if there were any comments made by

Mister P

9/25/22 9:45am

Kalani only said they held the ball longer than typical

SouthernBlueBlood

9/25/22 9:47am

Wyoming Coach mentioned that refs get evaluated and moved up or down just like

stenso

9/25/22 10:06am

Kalani did mention he wasn’t sure how the refs missed an easy incomplete pass

MVPlayer

9/25/22 10:43am

BYU was a 21 point favorite.

BYUHgrad

9/25/22 9:46am

That's an exact reason to NOT throw so many flags

basc-coug

9/25/22 9:49am

Unless they took Wyoming and the points.

valcorger

9/25/22 9:52am

Well of course, but I didn’t know that was assumed

basc-coug

9/25/22 11:21am

^^^Doesn't gamble^^^

pink22

9/25/22 9:52am

The cut block they called on the fumble recovery of an incomplete pass was weird

bluelands

9/25/22 9:47am

That one was egregious. How can you have a live ball penalty on a play that you

Manti

9/25/22 9:48am

So so bad there.

Soupie

9/25/22 10:03am

Exactly. Asinine.

jtm0001

9/25/22 12:34pm

That was THE WORST call of the night.

MoodyBlueCoug

9/25/22 9:49am

Also the spot giving Wyoming a first down when he was minimum 1.5

Big12Yfan

9/25/22 9:53am

The play wasn't dead. They let it go, then discussed it and came to the

cougaman

9/25/22 10:15am

Still a whack call.. dude didn't even connect on that block.

GhostRider

9/25/22 11:26am

He dove at the guys knee to block him. That's illegal.

cougaman

9/25/22 12:21pm

So it's the attempt that's illegal? If you 'almost' facemask somebody, it should

GhostRider

9/25/22 12:38pm

An attempt to dive at sometime at the knees to block them in the open field is

cougaman

9/25/22 12:59pm

Yes, throwing a punch and a block are completely different. Is the ref justified

GhostRider

9/25/22 1:19pm

And throwing a block and a facemask are also completely different, yet you

cougaman

9/25/22 3:46pm

You're acting like all penalties in football are black and white. That's just

GhostRider

9/25/22 9:17pm

And you didn't answer the question because you agree that it was enough time

cougaman

9/25/22 9:19pm

Doesn't matter. If it was a dead play, NOTHING after applies. If we scored, they

jtm0001

9/25/22 12:37pm

He made an illegal dive at the his knee. If they HAD blown it dead (which they

cougaman

9/25/22 12:57pm

RE: The play wasn't dead. They let it go, then discussed it and came to the

imdocrob

9/25/22 6:15pm

First, the play wasn't dead, and the block happened, so yes, they should be

cougaman

9/25/22 6:21pm

RE: First, the play wasn't dead, and the block happened, so yes, they should be

imdocrob

9/25/22 9:24pm

I don't know football and your are arguing that players should tackle well

cougaman

9/25/22 9:41pm

RE: I don't know football and your are arguing that players should tackle well

imdocrob

9/26/22 9:14am

Whistle blows, don't tackle after that or it's a penalty. It's that simple.

cougaman

9/26/22 10:45am

RE: Whistle blows, don't tackle after that or it's a penalty. It's that simple.

imdocrob

9/26/22 11:33am

First off, quit with the insults. Second, it is that simple. It was AFTER THE

cougaman

9/26/22 1:21pm

Or the Wake cut block that was done at the location where the snap occurred

Blue Ridge

9/25/22 9:55am

Has to be an OL inside the tackle box.

Manti

9/25/22 9:55am

Can be anyone that lines up inside the TB, not just Oline.

StantonMac

9/25/22 10:08am

Not sure why Wake went for the cut block anyways. Regardless of the call,

BYUHgrad

9/25/22 10:08am

Isnt a TE lined up on the line considered an o lineman on run plays?

Dat_rmishner

9/26/22 11:06am

It was the correct call.

MVPlayer

9/25/22 10:45am

regardless of whether it was right or not. It was insanely late. Play was

SUAVO

9/25/22 11:01am

That was my issue with it also.

MVPlayer

9/25/22 11:03am

And there were 4 of their linemen downfield, Kalani pointed it out, no call

Big12Yfan

9/25/22 11:24am

I can’t comment on most of them, but the lineman downfield on us was far from

StantonMac

9/25/22 10:13am

Another one that bugged me was the unsportsmanlike on Bywater. By definition

DanSmith...BYU

9/25/22 10:59am

Dead-ball contact fouls such as pushing, shoving, striking, etc. that occur…

BYU'01

9/25/22 11:18am

problem there was the offense was still playing the RB handed the ball to the QB

TheRowdy

9/25/22 12:20pm

They are asking to not throw people down after the whistle.... It was a penalty

cougaman

9/25/22 12:24pm

if the offense keeps playing, the defense can't stop

TheRowdy

9/25/22 1:04pm

Yes they can BECAUSE THE WHISTLE BLEW.

cougaman

9/25/22 1:11pm

You hear stuff all the time that sounds like whistles.

TheRowdy

9/25/22 11:49pm

BTW, I'm making a separate point... Bywater should have been flagged.

TheRowdy

9/26/22 10:42am

He should have been flagged because of the whistle...

cougaman

9/26/22 10:57am

I think the flag was warrented because of the timing and roughness. I just think

DanSmith...BYU

9/26/22 11:01am

There were multiple, clear, distinct whistles. If the ref blows the whistle, and

cougaman

9/26/22 10:56am

The play stops on the whistle. The QB did not attempt to advance the ball.

BYU'01

9/25/22 1:18pm

The refs expect you to stop when they are all blowing their whistles. Their QB…

BYU'01

9/25/22 1:17pm

Ok. Your right. That's a place where the NCAA rule differs from NFHS. I should

DanSmith...BYU

9/25/22 5:18pm

They were bad all around. The entire left side of the BYU O-line false started

OhioCougFan

9/25/22 11:00am

~All controversial calls were actually correct. The TD was not an illegal pick.

BYU'01

9/25/22 11:22am

No it was a pick. But was caught behind the line of scrimmage, so it’s legal.

Boring

9/25/22 11:42am

The ball was caught in the end zone

BYU'01

9/25/22 1:58pm

Which TD are you referring to?

RGGeemer

9/25/22 2:01pm

Hill's 1st TD is as you are describing. No pick, just crossing routes and Hill

RGGeemer

9/25/22 2:22pm

That pick play is legal because the pass was thrown behind the LOS. Teams run

RGGeemer

9/25/22 1:52pm

The worst call by far was the Pay hold on the Davis TD.. so bad. and late again.

GhostRider

9/25/22 11:28am

Not to mention the absolutely ridiculous spots (crazy).

YSMACK

9/25/22 11:38am

Biggest thing with Hill’s penalty-

Dwide_Schrude

9/25/22 1:36pm

Hill’s celebration clearly deserved the flag - not even close.

Cswilliam01

9/25/22 2:40pm

It got to the point they were so bad you began to think it was on purpose

Coug Dude

9/25/22 2:53pm

Wyoming probably believes that they lost due to the Refs

Dr. 91coug

9/25/22 3:41pm

All I will say is this was a horrible group of Refs…. Hope they never come back.

BYU4eVeR

9/25/22 5:03pm

We did get away with a PI penalty later on in the game. Otherwise, it seemed

ACrop

9/26/22 4:13am

I get why but think it’s disingenuous to not discuss the false start that was

cougsareforreal

9/26/22 4:43pm

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