I think their over/under last year was 9.5? Maybe 8.5, and of course we ended at 8. A discount is appropriate. Not trying to knock them specifically, but the world thought we had a better O-line than we did (for the run at least) and they hoped Brooks could replace T. Allgeier (tall order). All also hoped the D would improve, and w/o looking at stats I'd say it was about the same. So a blue goggle discount is in order. That said, thinking we can be over .500 in the BigXII is also assuming an improvement, but I do expect the D to do a lot better.