Yeah, he wasn't very efficient on offense. He shot a high volume.

Mar 28, 2024
5:27:13pm

runnincoug Truly Addicted User

He's a great one, and maybe top 10, but it isn't a slam dunk in my opinion.

Certainly not #2.

Kobe Bryant Is An All-Time NBA Great, Unless You Do The Math

Is the retiring Kobe Bryant truly one of the best NBA players of all time? Or is he simply basketball's most celebrated shot-chucker?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/vva5jb/kobe-bryant-is-an-all-time-nba-great-unless-you-do-the-math

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MJ. Kobe. End of list.

Division Bell Recovering

Mar 28, 5:10pm

Larry Bird

WJCougar

Mar 28, 5:10pm

You would take Larry Bird over LeBron? In a basketball game?

RealTaysomHill

Mar 28, 5:11pm

RE: You would take Larry Bird over LeBron? In a basketball game?

WJCougar

Mar 28, 5:12pm

I disagree

RealTaysomHill

Mar 28, 5:15pm

RE: I disagree

WJCougar

Mar 28, 5:18pm

What's funny is all the posters who were too young to appreciate the talent, spout off against guys who've seen both the

Division Bell

Mar 28, 5:29pm

You old guys are blinded by nostalgia. Athletes in every sport are better today than they were 30+ years ago

RealTaysomHill

Mar 28, 5:52pm

Everyone looks good when they don't have to follow the rules

Division Bell

Mar 28, 5:55pm

If your argument is that “refs missed calls against LeBron = Jordan is better,” that’s a really dumb argument

RealTaysomHill

Mar 28, 6:01pm

Do you really want to tally up and compare all the travels? LeBron would lose.

Division Bell

Mar 28, 6:04pm

No. Like I said, it’s a really dumb argument

RealTaysomHill

Mar 28, 7:00pm

Refs asked MJ for shoes/autographs at games but sure they gave him a bad whistle

climps

Mar 28, 10:11pm

You put Larry or Jordan from back then with today science and they improve too

cypresstx

Mar 28, 8:03pm

That’s a very convenient hypothetical. Not sure it’s true

RealTaysomHill

Mar 28, 8:12pm

Not as hypothetical as you think

sportsgeek82

Mar 28, 9:03pm

That was fascinating and eye-opening

CameronG

Mar 29, 12:34pm

Larry Bird is playing in the NBA today. And is dominating. His name is just Nikola Jokic.

Spiff

Mar 28, 9:12pm

Thats an excellent comparison.

Division Bell

Mar 28, 9:16pm

Maybe if you’ve never watched either play and only seen a picture of them.

RealTaysomHill

Mar 28, 9:40pm

If I could build a team with any player in their prime and healthy, I would

AlexKnight

Mar 28, 5:42pm

You’re wrong but that’s ok. Larry wasn’t better than Magic. LeBron is better

LakeshowCougs

Mar 28, 5:49pm

Well, I can't compete with that astute analysis. I guess I am wrong.

AlexKnight

Mar 28, 6:28pm

It’s alright. Too each their own

LakeshowCougs

Mar 28, 9:07pm

Kobe? Revisionist history mucho. Dude was amazing but he's lucky to make the top 10. Prob 8-12 range.

dryflyelk

Mar 28, 5:13pm

Yeah, he wasn't very efficient on offense. He shot a high volume.

runnincoug

Mar 28, 5:27pm

It's amazing how few people actually care about data. He's a great player but might be one of the most overrated.

BYUnerd

Mar 28, 5:35pm

It makes me wonder who really would be #2? Top 5? If we dug into the data?

runnincoug

Mar 28, 5:37pm

THE most overrated

AZ Coug

Mar 28, 5:49pm

It’s actually amazing how much people rely too heavily on certain data… the greatest player argument is not who filled

crm48

Mar 28, 8:56pm

As I've said before, Kobe isn't even a top 5 Laker

AZ Coug

Mar 28, 5:48pm

What?! Kobe still holds an NBA record...

Perseguir

Mar 28, 7:25pm

RE: MJ. Kobe. End of list.

RealTaysomHill

Mar 28, 5:14pm

I was a big Kobe hater as a jazz fan

DavisCoCoug

Mar 28, 5:19pm

RE: I was a big Kobe hater as a jazz fan

WJCougar

Mar 28, 5:20pm

Tim Duncan over Kobe, same era

Plato

Mar 28, 5:25pm

RE: Tim Duncan over Kobe, same era

WJCougar

Mar 28, 5:27pm

Kobe was the most like MJ, in terms of style. But there are other ways to

garyfan

Mar 28, 6:10pm

The list starts with Jokic. Everyone else after is irrelevant

machete

Mar 28, 5:21pm

Kobe is right up there with MJ for who I would want to have the ball at the end

homegrown

Mar 28, 5:21pm

He never made his teammates better

AZ Coug

Mar 28, 5:48pm

Kobe? Probably the silliest thing you’ve ever posted from your finsta feed. Kobe? Kobe Bryant? Lolol.

shimmy

Mar 28, 5:26pm

Kobe? Hahaha. He is barely top 10 and that is borderline.

Baron

Mar 28, 5:26pm

RE: Kobe? Hahaha. He is barely top 10 and that is borderline.

WJCougar

Mar 28, 5:30pm

RE: Kobe? Hahaha. He is barely top 10 and that is borderline.

Baron

Mar 28, 5:35pm

That list is pretty good. All of those guys are winners of multiple mvps. Kobe

LakeshowCougs

Mar 28, 6:14pm

Yes he was. I’ll take the opinions of guys who actually played/coached in the

Faceman

Mar 28, 6:38pm

That is laughable.

Baron

Mar 28, 6:45pm

Fringe top 10 is laughable.

Faceman

Mar 28, 6:49pm

People only say that because he died young imo

AZPTCOUG

Mar 28, 8:42pm

He wasn’t even the best player on his own team for the majority of his

pistol12

Mar 28, 10:18pm

I disagree. For the 2001 and 2002 titles, Kobe was right there with Shaq. Shaq

Faceman

Mar 29, 5:52am

Shaq had all three finals MVPs. I rest my case.

pistol12

Mar 29, 8:31am

Yep. People just automatically include him but when you look at it you see

Baron

Mar 28, 6:38pm

Comparing players from different eras is pointless.

CatamountFan

Mar 28, 5:34pm

The answer is chamberlain.

All-American

Mar 28, 7:15pm

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, MJ

ParentingNotForSissy

Mar 28, 7:50pm

You could make a solid argument for Kareem. He and MJ are top 2 for sure

zerome4sooners

Mar 28, 7:52pm

MJ, Kareem, and then it’s debatable after that

zerome4sooners

Mar 28, 7:51pm

These guys agree:

Faceman

Mar 28, 8:54pm

Who is saying Kobe and MJ couldn’t fill Lebrons shoes?

Kobe Bryant Is An All-Time NBA Great, Unless You Do The Math

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