Big 12 bump seems like the Jay Hill bump. Offense did not do near as well as D

Apr 17, 2024
4:51:45pm

SoBlueitHurts Truly Addicted User

this year and the prior two years were on par or below his predecessor. Until recently Kalani's best recruiting class (based on rankings) was 2016 which was mostly but together by Bronco. Development (based on draft picks) seems to be better though

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I don't get all the Kalani hate

Marc Spector

Apr 17, 1:14pm

His floor is low, and his ceiling is low sans Covid year. Not that hard to understand.

Haysom Till

Apr 17, 1:15pm

KS will be as good as the coaches he surrounds himself with. Great person & BYU guy.

Soupie

Apr 17, 1:15pm

This describes LaVell as well. I love Kalani and feel good about his staff

WallaX2

Apr 17, 1:19pm

You just described what every HC should be.

ManicBlue

Apr 17, 1:40pm

Yes but the caveat of surrounding himself with best hasn't always been the case.

Soupie

Apr 17, 2:10pm

I agree but now? I like the current staff. Calling for a wholesale change now is just stupid IMO.

ManicBlue

Apr 17, 2:11pm

Yes which was my point. The hate seems to be based on a situation that no longer exists but he needs to get it done now.

Soupie

Apr 17, 2:30pm

RE: Yes which was my point. The hate seems to be based on a situation that no longer exists but he needs to get it done

ManicBlue

Apr 17, 3:25pm

And at least 10 who did. Whatever NBD

Soupie

Apr 17, 3:26pm

So, he's like every coach. K.

Benfica1

Apr 17, 1:56pm

Not at all. Great head coaches elevate the performances of those around them.

ldssdl

Apr 17, 2:53pm

Why pay a head coach millions if he can't augment the performance of his

ldssdl

Apr 17, 2:52pm

Kalani is not a great leader of leaders. Not really even good at it. I love most other things about him. Great dude

Blue2thebone

Apr 17, 3:53pm

Your first sentence is much more describable of how fans feel than is hate.

Bullrider

Apr 17, 1:17pm

He's a bad coach. See: fake punting on 4th and 20. Twice.

Mitty

Apr 17, 1:18pm

Serious question. Is that enough to condemn a HC(not specifically KS) for?

palangi

Apr 17, 1:25pm

To me it's inexcusable. It shows a complete lack of control of the program and

Mitty

Apr 17, 1:26pm

RE: To me it's inexcusable. It shows a complete lack of control of the program and

darkcoug

Apr 17, 1:39pm

What is kalani good at. And by good I mean better than mediocre. The only thing I am sure of is garnering support

shimmy

Apr 17, 1:20pm

He probably does it because of this:

DubuMfalme

Apr 17, 1:23pm

Kalani is a great ambassador and a great guy. Unfortunately they don't give us

Roy D Mercer

Apr 17, 1:25pm

He is a lazy recruiter. Half the team is from schools an hour from campus.

TexDaddy

Apr 17, 1:21pm

not a lazy recruiter. lets compare him and whitt. I've heard the pukes have a

BYURider

Apr 17, 1:48pm

Kalani is an exceptional person and that goes a long way

2FarGone

Apr 17, 1:21pm

So, a sweet spirit?

TexDaddy

Apr 17, 1:22pm

I love Kalani. No hate here. Dude will get us into place. He just needs good

Don Carlton

Apr 17, 1:24pm

People just like to hate. Always needs to be a scapegoat. I am on team Kalani.

spidercoug

Apr 17, 1:24pm

But he IS a bad coach - way below average. He simply doesn't have the capacity

TeeKaa

Apr 17, 1:26pm

Jay Hill is a non-starter, but you’re all in on Darrell Bevell?

Ham

Apr 17, 1:26pm

We need to win. If he wins, great. If he doesn't, we need to move on.

RenoCoug

Apr 17, 1:27pm

Your own description of Kalani is literally the definition of a mediocre HC. The

TheMediator

Apr 17, 1:28pm

No hate here, but the trend since 2020 is obvious.

HuskerFan2

Apr 17, 1:28pm

You don't think SOS could have something to do with that trend (especially 2020

RGGeemer

Apr 17, 1:52pm

Perhaps. But if BYU only wins 3-5 games in 2024 is SOS going to be the main thing that fans are discussing?

HuskerFan2

Apr 17, 2:05pm

We'll win 6+

RGGeemer

Apr 17, 2:10pm

I hope you're right.

HuskerFan2

Apr 17, 2:14pm

Good dude that just doesn’t win enough games. That’s the bottom line.

Squirt

Apr 17, 1:32pm

I like him but I think he makes bad decisions and takes too long to correct them

AltTabbins

Apr 17, 1:35pm

If TNT hears "we will have to watch the film" one more time......aiieeeeeeeeeeee

TNT

Apr 17, 1:36pm

First fallacy: People hate Kalani. Nobody hates Kalani that I know of. Nobody

kimdaddy35

Apr 17, 1:40pm

THIS^^^

TheMediator

Apr 17, 4:14pm

It’s an important season for him

I'mBatman

Apr 17, 1:41pm

We lost four games by at least 4 TDs last year - 3 of which should have

Jesse Pinkman

Apr 17, 1:43pm

Those hurt. Just blown off of the field

TNT

Apr 17, 1:44pm

TCU and Iowa State were completely inexcusable. Then blowing a multi score lead

Kajdin

Apr 17, 1:46pm

2020-2022 was a really good stretch

RGGeemer

Apr 17, 1:51pm

2022 was not good. We beat Baylor (overrated) and it was pretty much downhill

SoBlueitHurts

Apr 17, 2:03pm

It has been hard to get back on the Kalani train since that Liberty 2022 loss. WV 2023 was also very hard to take. Among

Yllage Vidiot

Apr 17, 7:00pm

20 was against depleted high schools. Zero credit for that year.

TeeKaa

Apr 17, 2:13pm

Like Navy, Houston, UCF, etc?

RGGeemer

Apr 17, 2:29pm

Three teams that combined to go 12-17? Yes

SoBlueitHurts

Apr 17, 2:48pm

UCF was very good that year, certainly not a 'depleted high school team'.

RGGeemer

Apr 17, 2:55pm

I think the point is that BYU played no P5 teams that year. It was a complete G5

BYUfannonLDS

Apr 17, 3:31pm

Mediocre including those. terrible without them. I enjoyed 2020, but it was not

SoBlueitHurts

Apr 17, 4:06pm

Agreed. It was a weak schedule

BYUfannonLDS

Apr 17, 4:21pm

6-4 is not "very good" and Houston was below average

SoBlueitHurts

Apr 17, 4:02pm

Names mean nothing

TeeKaa

Apr 17, 3:29pm

CB is full of morons. It's easy to scapegoat a coach or player than to delve

Benfica1

Apr 17, 1:55pm

Oh heck ya. TNT does. It's all he has

TNT

Apr 17, 3:13pm

I wouldn't call it hate. It's more like unmet expectations.

Eggguy

Apr 17, 2:00pm

I love kalani. He is not a P4 head coach imo. My hope is in his assistants right the ship. My fear is a repeat of 2023

byuTX

Apr 17, 2:16pm

Haters gonna hate. That's all it is.

Homo Erectus

Apr 17, 2:57pm

This is the first year in forever that none of my friends want to travel to an

sunjieming

Apr 17, 3:11pm

He has the team woefully underprepared too often. Schematically, strategically, emotionally, and/or physically. He’s not

Haysom Till

Apr 17, 3:17pm

You described what KS is: an average HC. Most of us like Kalani & root for his

Forzaitalia

Apr 17, 3:35pm

We are fortunate to have Coach Sitake

MadHawaiian

Apr 17, 3:49pm

CB was around back then?

BaseCoug

Apr 17, 10:45pm

I love Kalani the man. And wasn't ready to move on until last year. There were

BYUHawk

Apr 17, 3:50pm

Pulled it together at the end to lose 5 in a row lol

byuTX

Apr 17, 4:16pm

That is kind of funny that I forgot that important detail. But the team looked

BYUHawk

Apr 17, 4:42pm

I actually agree they looked better the last two games FWIW. Only a D1 QB away from a decent year

byuTX

Apr 17, 7:02pm

One of the biggest frustrations has been recruiting.

JJP

Apr 17, 4:27pm

Wrong. There has been a Big 12 bump and he has recruited better than his

donnerstag

Apr 17, 4:47pm

Big 12 bump seems like the Jay Hill bump. Offense did not do near as well as D

SoBlueitHurts

Apr 17, 4:51pm

If you're using the rankings as your measure, it's a flawed measure

donnerstag

Apr 17, 5:07pm

Ummm... then why do the schools that get better classes also do better at

SoBlueitHurts

Apr 17, 5:53pm

Because they are getting 4 and 5 star recruits

donnerstag

Apr 17, 7:39pm

RE: Wrong. There has been a Big 12 bump and he has recruited better than his

JJP

Apr 18, 8:27am

I LOVE KALANI AND WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM

gocougs719

Apr 17, 4:47pm

Agreed. One year in b12 after years in independence and associated economics and coaches. Look at the coaches he’s

Hammurabi

Apr 17, 4:54pm

I don’t think anyone truly hates Kalani. He’s hard to hate.

BlooCoug

Apr 17, 5:02pm

Kalani is really likeable. Average coach. Honestly BYU football would be much

oryguncoug

Apr 17, 9:04pm

Kalani does not drive a recruiting culture. Half the team is from Utah schools.

TexDaddy

Apr 18, 10:08am

...while only a third of the BYU student body comes from Utah.

TexDaddy

Apr 18, 10:09am

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