The 'hard data' doesn't support the claims.

Jan 2, 2014
10:56:37pm

JamesDean

In fact, much of the 'hard data' turns out to be fudged data on a regular basis. Some of it is 'modeled' data which really doesn't mean much.

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The Earth has still been warming since 1998

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:44pm

Wrong time

HtownCoug

1/2/14 10:46pm

Does TNT have multiple board names?

cougfromcali

1/2/14 11:29pm

Yes. Jefe, Mrs. Santa Claus, Referee, goosebeat, and hoofbump

TNT

1/2/14 11:34pm

Awesome

Mathew

1/2/14 10:48pm

Then I'm quite impressed at my ability to adapt, because it doesn't feel any

BW84

1/2/14 10:49pm

Neat

MantiCoug

1/2/14 10:49pm

Mmm...nope.

ol' Blue Eyes

1/2/14 10:50pm

Don’t worry about it Fenestrator

Alcova

1/2/14 10:51pm

RE: The Earth has still been warming since 1998

jpal1397

1/2/14 10:51pm

Read the post. Hard data disagrees with your anecdote.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:53pm

Sorry mate, I read the emails of the real scientists...

OldCosmo

1/2/14 11:04pm

If you are refering to Climategate, I have addressed that nonissue before. I'll

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:07pm

Please... don't.

OldCosmo

1/2/14 11:16pm

You didn't provide any hard data

Freddie Cougar

1/3/14 6:26am

RE: You didn't provide any hard data

Defenestrator

1/3/14 8:03am

In order to more clearly see the human influence on warming trends, we must

BYUCoug11

1/2/14 10:52pm

That certainly would be nice,

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:54pm

The 'hard data' doesn't support the claims.

JamesDean

1/2/14 10:56pm

Climate scientists disagree. I have provided ample data. Unless you are going

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:58pm

Only the climate scientists you choose to quote. The other ones don't.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:00pm

I think those 97% are on to something with this one.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:06pm

LOL you should reread that pitiful paragraph before quoting 97% again

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:09pm

You should try responding in a constructive way like dsp81

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:15pm

I did. You denied it. Your viewpoint is clearly skewed, but you deny it when

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:18pm

<<decapitated>></decapitated>

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:21pm

Translation...you are too lazy to read the whole thread obviously.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:22pm

Lol! Can you even hear straight?

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:24pm

Deleting your post because it looks stupid, doesn't make my hearing poor

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:26pm

I'm not sure that's what it says. Maybe you should check it again.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:27pm

Retyping a post doesn't change it either.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:29pm

Changing the subject when you're the one blatantly fabricating circumstantial

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:34pm

Ya, makes a lot of sense now.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:35pm

Nice flippant response. Don't even address my points. Typical lib.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:36pm

What if I was being serious?

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:37pm

I've reviewed your posting history. This is typical flippant James.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:39pm

unpossible

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:40pm

Possible.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:42pm

I suppose, but doubtful

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:44pm

That we can agree on. Finally.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:45pm

You clearly don't know the difference between:

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:24pm

Clearly one of us has trouble with numbers and %'s

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:27pm

A lot of clear in this convo.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:29pm

Let's be precise: 97% of 33%

dsp81

1/2/14 11:12pm

Papers expressing no position on AGW do not mean that they do not believe the

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:15pm

Again, just poo poo the fact you got caught quoting falsely inflated numbers.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:15pm

That's fantastic, but it doesn't prove what you are saying it proves

dsp81

1/2/14 11:20pm

The 97% was falsely attributed to scientists. I should have said peer reviewed

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:28pm

Oh ya, and the data we quoted...that was out of context too.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:34pm

The numbers are nearly identical

dsp81

1/2/14 11:37pm

RE: The numbers are nearly identical

Defenestrator

1/3/14 12:10am

Again, I think you are overstating the evidence

dsp81

1/3/14 1:17am

My original claim was overstated, hence why I revised it.

Defenestrator

1/3/14 8:52am

I think you missed my point

dsp81

1/3/14 10:29am

And this is why I stopped giving in depth answers.

JamesDean

1/3/14 10:40am

RE: I think you missed my point

Defenestrator

1/3/14 5:05pm

Can you give an example of the point

Y Mountain

1/3/14 10:23am

Certainly.

Defenestrator

1/3/14 5:09pm

hah, oh my

Bob Vance

1/2/14 11:32pm

Mars... its been getting hotter there too.

OldCosmo

1/2/14 10:55pm

And we would have to stop the sun from putting out varying temperatures

BW84

1/2/14 10:55pm

Read the post. I addressed this issue.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:57pm

Why? Do you not believe in global warming at all?

BYUCoug11

1/2/14 11:00pm

I don't believe the warming is on the drastic scale to warrant panic, and

BW84

1/2/14 11:13pm

My post addressed the sun's influence. .5 C might not seem like a lot, but it

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:33pm

My evidence shows that we have had a damaging effect.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:30pm

And then there's this...

JamesDean

1/2/14 10:52pm

That is a separate issue which I would love to address in my next topic.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:56pm

Cute to dismiss the overarching issue. There are those who will try to correlate

JamesDean

1/2/14 10:59pm

Cute to dismiss my claims with no evidence to support yours.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:23pm

You haven't given this issue justice, because they are one in the same

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:24pm

Bah! Error propagation can simply be ignored

Bert609

1/2/14 11:10pm

Bingo

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:15pm

Weather != Climate

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:36pm

Except that climate over time is far more variable than

PolarisPrime

1/3/14 1:00am

Climate really isn't weather. Climate deals with long term averages. Weather

Defenestrator

1/3/14 8:05am

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Caboom

1/2/14 11:23pm

Totally agree except for point #2, #3 and #6

BlueFrog

1/2/14 10:54pm

Interesting

BIG XII Coug

1/2/14 10:55pm

I just threw all of that out the window

Blue Cat

1/2/14 10:55pm

Blue Cat! Shut the window its freezing out there!

OldCosmo

1/2/14 10:58pm

We must therefore 1. Throw tons of money at a problem we still can't fix,

BW84

1/2/14 10:57pm

An entirely separate issue which I don't want to get into with this topic.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:59pm

I say proper grazing, at least that was an interesting TED talk I watched once

permiso

1/2/14 11:02pm

The SF/GB game is going to be warm

SBJ

1/2/14 11:01pm

This post has an eerily VirginiaCoug-esque tone to it. The timing (right in the

UNLVcougar

1/2/14 11:08pm

Is it really possible we're damaging the earth by recycling materials?

dchandle15

1/2/14 11:24pm

But we are, those motherships aren't empty when they arrive!

OldCosmo

1/2/14 11:34pm

The earth ISN'T used to having these massive amounts of green house gases.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:39pm

also, there IS a huge foreign source of "stuff" sticking around on earth:

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:42pm

why should anyone care about total heat increase (which, I think is actually

Bob Vance

1/2/14 11:28pm

Thank you for providing constructive input.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:48pm

This is pretty weak stuff--but fairly amusing

ColoSpgs

1/2/14 11:28pm

RE: This is pretty weak stuff--but fairly amusing

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:59pm

Did you notice he said "our side"

Northwest Cougar

1/4/14 10:28am

Talking about climate change on CB is like

So it goes...

1/2/14 11:41pm

We must save the earth by abandoning it. It's the only way.

Caboom

1/2/14 11:43pm

...and everyone will -- one at a time.

cougfromcali

1/2/14 11:44pm

I was shocked when I started to read this:

OldCosmo

1/3/14 12:17am

did you mean to link to the same article twice?

Defenestrator

1/3/14 12:27am

also, the article you linked claims warming oceans.

Defenestrator

1/3/14 12:32am

Yes it does...

OldCosmo

1/3/14 12:47am

ah, there we go, fixed the link. Sorry I was reading a few things...

OldCosmo

1/3/14 12:45am

You seem to be making a similar argument to Freddie Cougar, so I will refer you

Defenestrator

1/3/14 8:07am

No, I'm not. I'm saying that yes there is deep ocean heating going on.

OldCosmo

1/3/14 9:02am

I apologize that I have been away and unable to respond.

Defenestrator

1/3/14 5:20pm

No. Its fixed.

OldCosmo

1/3/14 2:39pm

RE: The Earth has still been warming since 1998

BigTex

1/3/14 2:03am

It befuddles me why so many dismiss this as a non-issue,

So it goes...

1/3/14 2:22am

Lack of evidence makes it easy to dismiss

Freddie Cougar

1/3/14 7:10am

RE: Lack of evidence makes it easy to dismiss

Defenestrator

1/3/14 8:06am

It isn't a non-issue, but the evidence on whether man

Y Mountain

1/3/14 10:46am

You make some valid points, and therein lies the problem.

So it goes...

1/3/14 5:28pm

I used to be just like the majority of CB on this issue.

Defenestrator

1/3/14 5:47pm

Agreed. Unfortunately, the message is politicized and packaged.

Y Mountain

1/3/14 6:36pm

you can't hope to present data to CB and expect CB to understand it

jonzy

1/3/14 8:36am

For those interested, part 2 is now up.

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