Papers expressing no position on AGW do not mean that they do not believe the

Jan 2, 2014
11:15:03pm

Defenestrator

evidence supporting the position. It simply means that AGW is not the point they are trying to make with the paper, so they did not comment on it. Along with the 97% you can throw in every single major scientific organization.

Report problem with this ad

Defenestrator

Bio page: Defenestrator
Joined: Dec 2, 2008
Last login: Jun 9, 2024
Total posts: 9,154 (2,295 FO)

Report problem with this ad

Messages

Author

Time

The Earth has still been warming since 1998

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:44pm

Wrong time

HtownCoug

1/2/14 10:46pm

Does TNT have multiple board names?

cougfromcali

1/2/14 11:29pm

Yes. Jefe, Mrs. Santa Claus, Referee, goosebeat, and hoofbump

TNT

1/2/14 11:34pm

Awesome

Mathew

1/2/14 10:48pm

Then I'm quite impressed at my ability to adapt, because it doesn't feel any

BW84

1/2/14 10:49pm

Neat

MantiCoug

1/2/14 10:49pm

Mmm...nope.

ol' Blue Eyes

1/2/14 10:50pm

Don’t worry about it Fenestrator

Alcova

1/2/14 10:51pm

RE: The Earth has still been warming since 1998

jpal1397

1/2/14 10:51pm

Read the post. Hard data disagrees with your anecdote.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:53pm

Sorry mate, I read the emails of the real scientists...

OldCosmo

1/2/14 11:04pm

If you are refering to Climategate, I have addressed that nonissue before. I'll

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:07pm

Please... don't.

OldCosmo

1/2/14 11:16pm

You didn't provide any hard data

Freddie Cougar

1/3/14 6:26am

RE: You didn't provide any hard data

Defenestrator

1/3/14 8:03am

In order to more clearly see the human influence on warming trends, we must

BYUCoug11

1/2/14 10:52pm

That certainly would be nice,

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:54pm

The 'hard data' doesn't support the claims.

JamesDean

1/2/14 10:56pm

Climate scientists disagree. I have provided ample data. Unless you are going

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:58pm

Only the climate scientists you choose to quote. The other ones don't.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:00pm

I think those 97% are on to something with this one.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:06pm

LOL you should reread that pitiful paragraph before quoting 97% again

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:09pm

You should try responding in a constructive way like dsp81

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:15pm

I did. You denied it. Your viewpoint is clearly skewed, but you deny it when

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:18pm

<<decapitated>></decapitated>

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:21pm

Translation...you are too lazy to read the whole thread obviously.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:22pm

Lol! Can you even hear straight?

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:24pm

Deleting your post because it looks stupid, doesn't make my hearing poor

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:26pm

I'm not sure that's what it says. Maybe you should check it again.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:27pm

Retyping a post doesn't change it either.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:29pm

Changing the subject when you're the one blatantly fabricating circumstantial

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:34pm

Ya, makes a lot of sense now.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:35pm

Nice flippant response. Don't even address my points. Typical lib.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:36pm

What if I was being serious?

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:37pm

I've reviewed your posting history. This is typical flippant James.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:39pm

unpossible

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:40pm

Possible.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:42pm

I suppose, but doubtful

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:44pm

That we can agree on. Finally.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:45pm

You clearly don't know the difference between:

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:24pm

Clearly one of us has trouble with numbers and %'s

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:27pm

A lot of clear in this convo.

Illegal Jimmergrant

1/2/14 11:29pm

Let's be precise: 97% of 33%

dsp81

1/2/14 11:12pm

Papers expressing no position on AGW do not mean that they do not believe the

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:15pm

Again, just poo poo the fact you got caught quoting falsely inflated numbers.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:15pm

That's fantastic, but it doesn't prove what you are saying it proves

dsp81

1/2/14 11:20pm

The 97% was falsely attributed to scientists. I should have said peer reviewed

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:28pm

Oh ya, and the data we quoted...that was out of context too.

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:34pm

The numbers are nearly identical

dsp81

1/2/14 11:37pm

RE: The numbers are nearly identical

Defenestrator

1/3/14 12:10am

Again, I think you are overstating the evidence

dsp81

1/3/14 1:17am

My original claim was overstated, hence why I revised it.

Defenestrator

1/3/14 8:52am

I think you missed my point

dsp81

1/3/14 10:29am

And this is why I stopped giving in depth answers.

JamesDean

1/3/14 10:40am

RE: I think you missed my point

Defenestrator

1/3/14 5:05pm

Can you give an example of the point

Y Mountain

1/3/14 10:23am

Certainly.

Defenestrator

1/3/14 5:09pm

hah, oh my

Bob Vance

1/2/14 11:32pm

Mars... its been getting hotter there too.

OldCosmo

1/2/14 10:55pm

And we would have to stop the sun from putting out varying temperatures

BW84

1/2/14 10:55pm

Read the post. I addressed this issue.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:57pm

Why? Do you not believe in global warming at all?

BYUCoug11

1/2/14 11:00pm

I don't believe the warming is on the drastic scale to warrant panic, and

BW84

1/2/14 11:13pm

My post addressed the sun's influence. .5 C might not seem like a lot, but it

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:33pm

My evidence shows that we have had a damaging effect.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:30pm

And then there's this...

JamesDean

1/2/14 10:52pm

That is a separate issue which I would love to address in my next topic.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:56pm

Cute to dismiss the overarching issue. There are those who will try to correlate

JamesDean

1/2/14 10:59pm

Cute to dismiss my claims with no evidence to support yours.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:23pm

You haven't given this issue justice, because they are one in the same

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:24pm

Bah! Error propagation can simply be ignored

Bert609

1/2/14 11:10pm

Bingo

JamesDean

1/2/14 11:15pm

Weather != Climate

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:36pm

Except that climate over time is far more variable than

PolarisPrime

1/3/14 1:00am

Climate really isn't weather. Climate deals with long term averages. Weather

Defenestrator

1/3/14 8:05am

<< Deleted >>

Caboom

1/2/14 11:23pm

Totally agree except for point #2, #3 and #6

BlueFrog

1/2/14 10:54pm

Interesting

BIG XII Coug

1/2/14 10:55pm

I just threw all of that out the window

Blue Cat

1/2/14 10:55pm

Blue Cat! Shut the window its freezing out there!

OldCosmo

1/2/14 10:58pm

We must therefore 1. Throw tons of money at a problem we still can't fix,

BW84

1/2/14 10:57pm

An entirely separate issue which I don't want to get into with this topic.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 10:59pm

I say proper grazing, at least that was an interesting TED talk I watched once

permiso

1/2/14 11:02pm

The SF/GB game is going to be warm

SBJ

1/2/14 11:01pm

This post has an eerily VirginiaCoug-esque tone to it. The timing (right in the

UNLVcougar

1/2/14 11:08pm

Is it really possible we're damaging the earth by recycling materials?

dchandle15

1/2/14 11:24pm

But we are, those motherships aren't empty when they arrive!

OldCosmo

1/2/14 11:34pm

The earth ISN'T used to having these massive amounts of green house gases.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:39pm

also, there IS a huge foreign source of "stuff" sticking around on earth:

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:42pm

why should anyone care about total heat increase (which, I think is actually

Bob Vance

1/2/14 11:28pm

Thank you for providing constructive input.

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:48pm

This is pretty weak stuff--but fairly amusing

ColoSpgs

1/2/14 11:28pm

RE: This is pretty weak stuff--but fairly amusing

Defenestrator

1/2/14 11:59pm

Did you notice he said "our side"

Northwest Cougar

1/4/14 10:28am

Talking about climate change on CB is like

So it goes...

1/2/14 11:41pm

We must save the earth by abandoning it. It's the only way.

Caboom

1/2/14 11:43pm

...and everyone will -- one at a time.

cougfromcali

1/2/14 11:44pm

I was shocked when I started to read this:

OldCosmo

1/3/14 12:17am

did you mean to link to the same article twice?

Defenestrator

1/3/14 12:27am

also, the article you linked claims warming oceans.

Defenestrator

1/3/14 12:32am

Yes it does...

OldCosmo

1/3/14 12:47am

ah, there we go, fixed the link. Sorry I was reading a few things...

OldCosmo

1/3/14 12:45am

You seem to be making a similar argument to Freddie Cougar, so I will refer you

Defenestrator

1/3/14 8:07am

No, I'm not. I'm saying that yes there is deep ocean heating going on.

OldCosmo

1/3/14 9:02am

I apologize that I have been away and unable to respond.

Defenestrator

1/3/14 5:20pm

No. Its fixed.

OldCosmo

1/3/14 2:39pm

RE: The Earth has still been warming since 1998

BigTex

1/3/14 2:03am

It befuddles me why so many dismiss this as a non-issue,

So it goes...

1/3/14 2:22am

Lack of evidence makes it easy to dismiss

Freddie Cougar

1/3/14 7:10am

RE: Lack of evidence makes it easy to dismiss

Defenestrator

1/3/14 8:06am

It isn't a non-issue, but the evidence on whether man

Y Mountain

1/3/14 10:46am

You make some valid points, and therein lies the problem.

So it goes...

1/3/14 5:28pm

I used to be just like the majority of CB on this issue.

Defenestrator

1/3/14 5:47pm

Agreed. Unfortunately, the message is politicized and packaged.

Y Mountain

1/3/14 6:36pm

you can't hope to present data to CB and expect CB to understand it

jonzy

1/3/14 8:36am

For those interested, part 2 is now up.

Posting on CougarBoard