That ball wasn't that poorly thrown. A normal sized receiver comes down...

Sep 16, 2014
11:36:43am

BearsandBulls

with it. That DB went right over the top of Juergens. That doesn't happen with a 6' plus receiver (just about any other receiver on our roster).

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Juergens is a simple step out-a-bounds away from being my favorite

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:03am

My fave is Leslie easily. Reminds me of Hoffman and has stepped right in.

Grit for Brains

9/16/14 11:04am

By a mile. Leslie has been awesome.

RalphWiggam

9/16/14 11:05am

I'm very pleased with his play, too. Very.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:05am

it wasn't "a very poor throw." it wasn't

riboflavin

9/16/14 11:06am

How is a ten foot bullet at the head of a sprinting receiver

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:08am

For a college QB, it was a decent throw.

TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team

9/16/14 11:10am

He's seems like a serviceable player who has earned some reps. He's not the

goose

9/16/14 11:12am

And yet he didn't even have to jump for it. He only had to raise his hands.

macaroni

9/16/14 12:39pm

Why jump for a ball that's head/shoulder level? And why jump

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 3:01pm

You're confused. The DEFENDER jumped.

macaroni

9/16/14 9:08pm

The confusion you have is that you don't get the simple

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 9:20pm

I'm not sure he's ever been to the gym...

BarraCouga

9/16/14 10:03pm

Yeah, ditto. This coming from the guy that thinks that in a pull down and all

macaroni

9/16/14 10:18pm

You need to watch the play obviously.

macaroni

9/16/14 10:16pm

More than anything it was a great play by the DB.

Zach Morris

9/16/14 11:09am

What it was...a great catch, for a split second.

BarraCouga

9/16/14 11:14am

Both of the TOs he was involved in were a result of him being small and not

CBislife_rstjstdetls

9/16/14 12:04pm

And he simply wasn't physical enough to keep the ball away...twice.

macaroni

9/16/14 12:36pm

I disagree. I don't think that ball is stolen from a guy like Mathews or Leslie.

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:10am

Jurgens has it in his hands, DB has it in his chest. No chance for Jurgens to

joehayes

9/16/14 11:12am

This. Maybe Leslie holds on to it. Maybe. But he's the only one.

BarraCouga

9/16/14 11:20am

Taysom shoulders much of the blame, but, theres no way Jordan Leslie

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:25am

I'll give you the height argument, but thats it. That pick is on Taysom.

joehayes

9/16/14 11:28am

That ball wasn't that poorly thrown. A normal sized receiver comes down...

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:36am

Gotta throw to the guy out there it was high behind and late

joehayes

9/16/14 11:37am

It wasn't really behind him. It was literally right on top of his helmet.

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:42am

^^^^this^^^^

palangi

9/16/14 11:44am

Just re watched it, top of helmet height, above back shoulder ... Also have to

joehayes

9/16/14 11:48am

The throw wasn't perfect. Less than 10% of throws in college football are.

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:59am

umm no, not in his chest

palangi

9/16/14 11:33am

100% agree. Leslie pulls that one down no problem same with Mathews.

nhatch82

9/16/14 11:27am

It was stolen because the DB had greater point of leverage.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/16/14 4:25pm

It's true. The DB had more leverage than Juergens. I still think a bigger...

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 4:37pm

Maybe, Maybe not.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/16/14 4:43pm

Agreed about Blackmon. The guy touches the ball once and strikes paydirt.

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 5:10pm

Leverage? He was in MID AIR. How can you have greater leverage in mid air while

macaroni

9/16/14 9:09pm

Are you actually watching the play?

BarraCouga

9/16/14 9:20pm

Yes. Are you?

macaroni

9/16/14 9:26pm

Oh yeah, and what's with the "whipping boy" stuff?

macaroni

9/16/14 9:30pm

No stupid nicknames?

BarraCouga

9/16/14 10:06pm

Ooooohhhh, how mean! Like he wouldn't have that nickname anyway.

macaroni

9/16/14 10:20pm

It was catchable. A "very poor throw"

RalphWiggam

9/16/14 11:11am

He did catch it! And then Stewart caught it more.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:13am

This. And it was a tough, tough catch.

BarraCouga

9/16/14 11:18am

Right. Precisely why I don't think it could be appropriately

RalphWiggam

9/16/14 11:21am

If it weren't so close, thrown so hard, & wasn't with the Safety trailing so

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:28am

I don't think it's even about height. Hoffman and Leslie have great strength

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 11:52am

You just made a point for everyone else.

macaroni

9/16/14 12:42pm

The interception is partially on him

donnerstag

9/16/14 11:12am

Its a lot easier to muscle a ball into your chest

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:16am

And yet he still lost one of those too.

whirl

9/16/14 11:19am

WR has to use shoulders to power that down, as well aslats, but a

CarolinaCoug

9/16/14 1:05pm

You're leaving out something very important.

macaroni

9/16/14 1:20pm

Nah. INCE he had teh ball he was also in contact with jurgens body

CarolinaCoug

9/16/14 1:31pm

That made zero sense. But clearly you need a physics class. Then re watch the

macaroni

9/16/14 9:11pm

Watch the play again. The ball was behind and above.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/16/14 9:37pm

I did. It wasn't. You clearly need to re watch the play again.

macaroni

9/16/14 10:31pm

It wasn't a bad throw, It could have been better,but it was not a bad throw

CarolinaCoug

9/17/14 10:48am

I'll take Bills any day, even on Sunday.

whirl

9/16/14 11:18am

seriously, he's my new fave after last week's bone crushing hits

permiso

9/16/14 11:22am

I don't think the throw itself was terrible, it was probably just a bad

Duke Silver

9/16/14 11:19am

He puts that ball on the money, there's nothing wrong w that throw. At all.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:30am

high, behind and late ..... 3 thrings wrong with that throw

joehayes

9/16/14 11:30am

Can someone, SOMEONE tell me what was wrong with the way Juergens was holding

ChinoCoug

9/16/14 11:27am

no grown man should get the ball taken out of his hands like that, it was weak

palangi

9/16/14 11:35am

You didn't answer my question.

ChinoCoug

9/16/14 12:08pm

yes I did, he held the ball soft, hold it like a man and don't let someone take

palangi

9/16/14 12:14pm

He was stood up, a bigger guy had time to rip it out. Not hard to understand.

BlueNtheFace

9/16/14 1:02pm

it happened extremely fast for being "stood up", regardless as a man you cannot

palangi

9/16/14 1:16pm

If a taller WR was there, it would of hit him in the gut

Heinz57

9/16/14 11:30am

Let's be honest. It would've hit a tall receiver in the back.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:38am

But let's be honest about something else as well.

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 11:44am

And one more bit of honesty: Stewart muscling that ball away had less to do

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:48am

One made a play, one didn't.

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 11:50am

I agree 100%. Juergens got his hands on the ball. He needs to bring it in...

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:49am

complaining that Juergens is responsible for INT b/c he's short is ridiculous

byujag

9/16/14 11:31am

Dude, don't try to take all blame away from him.

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 11:37am

Well, thanx for the permission, my southern brrro!

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:40am

Just curious, what makes him your favorite over others?

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 12:03pm

He's made some big plays, & is the underdog, unexpected contributor.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 12:13pm

Fair enough. Hope he steps it up. We need all the receiving help we can get.

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 12:51pm

In 3 games he's had 3 receptions for 57 yards...

IdahoanCougar

9/16/14 12:52pm

RE: Juergens is a simple step out-a-bounds away from being my favorite

Cougart1

9/16/14 1:00pm

RE: Juergens is a simple step out-a-bounds away from being my favorite

mjohns8700

9/16/14 1:19pm

The replay shows he stayed in. No question. At 1st, I thought he went out, too.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 1:27pm

Nope. Not even close

southernfriedcougar

9/17/14 2:02pm

I joked about Juergens after the game but he's a great player. He's our Wes

tony

9/16/14 2:03pm

You make that sig pic?

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 2:54pm

We dont like wes welker. vice versa. hes our Wayne Chrebet (throwback)

nhatch82

9/17/14 11:25am

What happened to Ross Apo? It doesn't appear he has a single catch this season.

Arlingtoncougar

9/16/14 2:35pm

3rd string

palangi

9/16/14 2:46pm

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