You're leaving out something very important.

Sep 16, 2014
1:20:28pm

macaroni

Our guy was running on the ground and the ball was at his head, his body shielding the defender.

Their guy was IN THE AIR, shielded by juergens. Who has leverage?

I'll take the guy who is on the ground all day long.

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Juergens is a simple step out-a-bounds away from being my favorite

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:03am

My fave is Leslie easily. Reminds me of Hoffman and has stepped right in.

Grit for Brains

9/16/14 11:04am

By a mile. Leslie has been awesome.

RalphWiggam

9/16/14 11:05am

I'm very pleased with his play, too. Very.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:05am

it wasn't "a very poor throw." it wasn't

riboflavin

9/16/14 11:06am

How is a ten foot bullet at the head of a sprinting receiver

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:08am

For a college QB, it was a decent throw.

TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team

9/16/14 11:10am

He's seems like a serviceable player who has earned some reps. He's not the

goose

9/16/14 11:12am

And yet he didn't even have to jump for it. He only had to raise his hands.

macaroni

9/16/14 12:39pm

Why jump for a ball that's head/shoulder level? And why jump

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 3:01pm

You're confused. The DEFENDER jumped.

macaroni

9/16/14 9:08pm

The confusion you have is that you don't get the simple

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 9:20pm

I'm not sure he's ever been to the gym...

BarraCouga

9/16/14 10:03pm

Yeah, ditto. This coming from the guy that thinks that in a pull down and all

macaroni

9/16/14 10:18pm

You need to watch the play obviously.

macaroni

9/16/14 10:16pm

More than anything it was a great play by the DB.

Zach Morris

9/16/14 11:09am

What it was...a great catch, for a split second.

BarraCouga

9/16/14 11:14am

Both of the TOs he was involved in were a result of him being small and not

CBislife_rstjstdetls

9/16/14 12:04pm

And he simply wasn't physical enough to keep the ball away...twice.

macaroni

9/16/14 12:36pm

I disagree. I don't think that ball is stolen from a guy like Mathews or Leslie.

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:10am

Jurgens has it in his hands, DB has it in his chest. No chance for Jurgens to

joehayes

9/16/14 11:12am

This. Maybe Leslie holds on to it. Maybe. But he's the only one.

BarraCouga

9/16/14 11:20am

Taysom shoulders much of the blame, but, theres no way Jordan Leslie

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:25am

I'll give you the height argument, but thats it. That pick is on Taysom.

joehayes

9/16/14 11:28am

That ball wasn't that poorly thrown. A normal sized receiver comes down...

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:36am

Gotta throw to the guy out there it was high behind and late

joehayes

9/16/14 11:37am

It wasn't really behind him. It was literally right on top of his helmet.

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:42am

^^^^this^^^^

palangi

9/16/14 11:44am

Just re watched it, top of helmet height, above back shoulder ... Also have to

joehayes

9/16/14 11:48am

The throw wasn't perfect. Less than 10% of throws in college football are.

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:59am

umm no, not in his chest

palangi

9/16/14 11:33am

100% agree. Leslie pulls that one down no problem same with Mathews.

nhatch82

9/16/14 11:27am

It was stolen because the DB had greater point of leverage.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/16/14 4:25pm

It's true. The DB had more leverage than Juergens. I still think a bigger...

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 4:37pm

Maybe, Maybe not.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/16/14 4:43pm

Agreed about Blackmon. The guy touches the ball once and strikes paydirt.

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 5:10pm

Leverage? He was in MID AIR. How can you have greater leverage in mid air while

macaroni

9/16/14 9:09pm

Are you actually watching the play?

BarraCouga

9/16/14 9:20pm

Yes. Are you?

macaroni

9/16/14 9:26pm

Oh yeah, and what's with the "whipping boy" stuff?

macaroni

9/16/14 9:30pm

No stupid nicknames?

BarraCouga

9/16/14 10:06pm

Ooooohhhh, how mean! Like he wouldn't have that nickname anyway.

macaroni

9/16/14 10:20pm

It was catchable. A "very poor throw"

RalphWiggam

9/16/14 11:11am

He did catch it! And then Stewart caught it more.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:13am

This. And it was a tough, tough catch.

BarraCouga

9/16/14 11:18am

Right. Precisely why I don't think it could be appropriately

RalphWiggam

9/16/14 11:21am

If it weren't so close, thrown so hard, & wasn't with the Safety trailing so

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:28am

I don't think it's even about height. Hoffman and Leslie have great strength

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 11:52am

You just made a point for everyone else.

macaroni

9/16/14 12:42pm

The interception is partially on him

donnerstag

9/16/14 11:12am

Its a lot easier to muscle a ball into your chest

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:16am

And yet he still lost one of those too.

whirl

9/16/14 11:19am

WR has to use shoulders to power that down, as well aslats, but a

CarolinaCoug

9/16/14 1:05pm

You're leaving out something very important.

macaroni

9/16/14 1:20pm

Nah. INCE he had teh ball he was also in contact with jurgens body

CarolinaCoug

9/16/14 1:31pm

That made zero sense. But clearly you need a physics class. Then re watch the

macaroni

9/16/14 9:11pm

Watch the play again. The ball was behind and above.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/16/14 9:37pm

I did. It wasn't. You clearly need to re watch the play again.

macaroni

9/16/14 10:31pm

It wasn't a bad throw, It could have been better,but it was not a bad throw

CarolinaCoug

9/17/14 10:48am

I'll take Bills any day, even on Sunday.

whirl

9/16/14 11:18am

seriously, he's my new fave after last week's bone crushing hits

permiso

9/16/14 11:22am

I don't think the throw itself was terrible, it was probably just a bad

Duke Silver

9/16/14 11:19am

He puts that ball on the money, there's nothing wrong w that throw. At all.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:30am

high, behind and late ..... 3 thrings wrong with that throw

joehayes

9/16/14 11:30am

Can someone, SOMEONE tell me what was wrong with the way Juergens was holding

ChinoCoug

9/16/14 11:27am

no grown man should get the ball taken out of his hands like that, it was weak

palangi

9/16/14 11:35am

You didn't answer my question.

ChinoCoug

9/16/14 12:08pm

yes I did, he held the ball soft, hold it like a man and don't let someone take

palangi

9/16/14 12:14pm

He was stood up, a bigger guy had time to rip it out. Not hard to understand.

BlueNtheFace

9/16/14 1:02pm

it happened extremely fast for being "stood up", regardless as a man you cannot

palangi

9/16/14 1:16pm

If a taller WR was there, it would of hit him in the gut

Heinz57

9/16/14 11:30am

Let's be honest. It would've hit a tall receiver in the back.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:38am

But let's be honest about something else as well.

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 11:44am

And one more bit of honesty: Stewart muscling that ball away had less to do

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:48am

One made a play, one didn't.

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 11:50am

I agree 100%. Juergens got his hands on the ball. He needs to bring it in...

BearsandBulls

9/16/14 11:49am

complaining that Juergens is responsible for INT b/c he's short is ridiculous

byujag

9/16/14 11:31am

Dude, don't try to take all blame away from him.

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 11:37am

Well, thanx for the permission, my southern brrro!

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 11:40am

Just curious, what makes him your favorite over others?

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 12:03pm

He's made some big plays, & is the underdog, unexpected contributor.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 12:13pm

Fair enough. Hope he steps it up. We need all the receiving help we can get.

southernfriedcougar

9/16/14 12:51pm

In 3 games he's had 3 receptions for 57 yards...

IdahoanCougar

9/16/14 12:52pm

RE: Juergens is a simple step out-a-bounds away from being my favorite

Cougart1

9/16/14 1:00pm

RE: Juergens is a simple step out-a-bounds away from being my favorite

mjohns8700

9/16/14 1:19pm

The replay shows he stayed in. No question. At 1st, I thought he went out, too.

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 1:27pm

Nope. Not even close

southernfriedcougar

9/17/14 2:02pm

I joked about Juergens after the game but he's a great player. He's our Wes

tony

9/16/14 2:03pm

You make that sig pic?

Mantis Mutu

9/16/14 2:54pm

We dont like wes welker. vice versa. hes our Wayne Chrebet (throwback)

nhatch82

9/17/14 11:25am

What happened to Ross Apo? It doesn't appear he has a single catch this season.

Arlingtoncougar

9/16/14 2:35pm

3rd string

palangi

9/16/14 2:46pm

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