Answer the question troll.. err.. "Realist". Your 2004 Utes (cant hide it) had

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Sep 18, 2014
2:18:33pm

CosmosCuzzn

Answer the question troll.. err.. "Realist". Your 2004 Utes (cant hide it) had

the #70 SOS according to Sagarin, and yet you proudly display the banner that says you were the #4 ranked team in the country that year. According to your "logic" that you have been spouting here that should not be possible given that you didn't play any worthy opponents that year. I mean, the best teams you played that year was an aTm team that finished 7-5, and a Pitt team that finished 8-4.

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CosmosCuzzn

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Byu #72 in remaining SOS according to ESPN FPI

Football Realist

9/18/14 12:54pm

Considering that most schools have almost only conference games left, is this

midwestcoug

9/18/14 12:56pm

True, but conference is what matters most. Does that mean rankings are bogus

Football Realist

9/18/14 12:57pm

LOL, really? Pretty obvious yewt here, guys

9/18/14 2:53pm

#B1Gproblems

BYUheaven

9/18/14 12:57pm

Happens every year.

Scooter

9/18/14 12:57pm

Perhaps because the Top 25 is the top 25 teams, not the top 25 schedules.

YoManCoug

9/18/14 12:58pm

How can you judge the Top 25 teams yet if they haven't played anyone important?

Football Realist

9/18/14 12:59pm

We give in BYU is horrible you are right.

midwestcoug

9/18/14 1:01pm

Houston is certainly tougher than "Bye."

YoManCoug

9/18/14 1:04pm

So if the 49ers played BYU's schedule they wouldn't qualify for the CFB Playoff?

CaliWG

9/18/14 1:10pm

That's a very strange comparison, it also doesn't apply either because byu does

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:14pm

What does playing in a conference have to do with anything?

CaliWG

9/18/14 1:20pm

You brought up the NFC comparison did you not?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:24pm

I brought up the fact that many years the Niners' schedule was not very tough

CaliWG

9/18/14 1:30pm

Mhmm. And I addressed that in the post right after

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:35pm

Your response makes no sense

CaliWG

9/18/14 1:40pm

Sorry I don't speak "delusion." Just "realist." Enjoy your day buddy!!!

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:05pm

I'm with you, I think national champion should be decided by toughest schedule.

4mack

9/18/14 1:00pm

Just curious is all. Rankings shouldn't come out until at least Week 8 imo.

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:05pm

Because we are not #72 in the past 3 games. I'd guess we have a top

rggee

9/18/14 1:02pm

Possibly top 10.

rggee

9/18/14 1:04pm

Not actually. Week 3 Byu #72, Week 2 #75, and Week 1 #70. Preseason #67

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:04pm

Those are usually full year projections even early in the year

dtownCoug

9/18/14 1:29pm

You're an idiot you don't even understand the stats you are

9/18/14 1:53pm

Calling people "idiots," it's against the rules here I thought God bless you

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:06pm

I only called you an idiot.... [waits for rebuttal]

9/18/14 2:11pm

I don't think that's one of the seven words you are allowed to say on here

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:13pm

So now your back in the singular form... Must be one of those days...

9/18/14 2:17pm

Not if its true. Plus you didn't defend what he accused you of.

6th-Kamikaze-mission

9/18/14 2:47pm

Because the top 25 at this point is just a big guessing game

rcbyufan

9/18/14 1:02pm

Don't feed this troll, please.

cougarick

9/18/14 1:04pm

Trolls don't posts facts

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:05pm

But the only fact you posted has no relevance

docrick

9/18/14 1:12pm

You mean like how Utah went bowling in 2012?

cougarick

9/18/14 1:15pm

Yes, the 2011-2012 season. Sun Bowl against GT

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:32pm

The Sun Bowl was in 2011. Try again.

cougarick

9/18/14 1:41pm

Sorry you're struggling with this. Count on your fingers next time?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:48pm

Yep, time to bug out. The troll is dragging me down to his level.

cougarick

9/18/14 1:54pm

I'd bug out to if I couldn't figure out something so simple

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:05pm

Sure, like that your team didn't go bowling in 2012. Seems fairly simple.

cougarick

9/18/14 2:11pm

The same year 2011-2012 season where Utah won 54-10 @ Byu. I'd try to forget

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:18pm

You post half-truths and then twisted arguments, you're killing me here LOL

9/18/14 2:55pm

Utah will have a much better SOS than BYU. But BYU will still be ranked higher.

boscatar

9/18/14 1:06pm

One loss and Byu won't be ranked at all, for the rest of the season Miami!

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:09pm

Not sure, but it somehow worked for Utah in 2004 and 2008.

mulletino

9/18/14 1:06pm

In 2008 Utah beat four ranked teams, did they not? Finished 2nd in the country

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:09pm

Your SOS was in the mid 50's. GARBAGE schedule, right?

mulletino

9/18/14 1:09pm

Notice how all the MWC teams were pretty similar

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:21pm

They are considered a top 25 team because they are winning

docrick

9/18/14 1:10pm

Except they didn't win the Houston game until two minutes remaining in the game

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:11pm

Ahh you must not have watched the game

docrick

9/18/14 1:13pm

Ahh, watched every play. Streamed it online even

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:15pm

Then you aren't very realistic about football....got it

docrick

9/18/14 1:16pm

No need to get defensive and insecure, friend

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:18pm

not defensive just posting facts

docrick

9/18/14 1:20pm

I see none

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:23pm

That's because you really aren't a realist

docrick

9/18/14 1:25pm

Then you wouldn't be so offended if that were true

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:29pm

Oh I'm not offended at all; I'm giving you a dose of reality

docrick

9/18/14 1:35pm

Sorry it's having no effect. It happens.

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:39pm

Is your period a hotkey for a smiley face?

tony

9/18/14 1:49pm

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:50pm

we went up 23-0 but we didn't win it until 2:00 to go? that's funny "my friend"

run26

9/18/14 1:21pm

Even more embarrassing right?

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:01pm

LOL. It took UCLA until the last minute to beat Texas on a neutral

mulletino

9/18/14 1:13pm

With a backup QB that played the whole game and still pulled it off, shows that

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:16pm

And what about UVA and Memphis? Or does that hurt your position?

mulletino

9/18/14 1:18pm

Well I think Virginia is actually a pretty good team. I think you'll see that

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:40pm

We'll see you Monday with your endless praise for BYU then.

mulletino

9/18/14 1:44pm

Praise for what?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:47pm

for beating a "pretty good team"

run26

9/18/14 1:48pm

When did this happen?

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:00pm

sept 20, 2014

run26

9/18/14 2:01pm

You should let ESPN know so they can update the score and call it final since

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:17pm

hahaha, you should have stuck with your "facts"

4mack

9/18/14 1:14pm

wrong, they won the game with 51 seconds left in the 3rd quarter

byujag

9/18/14 1:15pm

Okay, but Houston had the opportunity to win up until the 2 minute mark or so

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:17pm

Blah blah blah, and BYU had the opportunity for a blowout if not for fluky TO's.

mulletino

9/18/14 1:19pm

If Houston had a running game it would have ended much differently I think

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:22pm

lol....if if if if

docrick

9/18/14 1:29pm

For a "realist", you sure have made a lot of conclusions based on "ifs"

jdub

9/18/14 1:34pm

Don't you think that is a problem if we cannot stop one dimensional play?!

digitalayon

9/18/14 1:54pm

they had the opportunity to tie it and we had the same opportunity to win by 16

byujag

9/18/14 1:21pm

Actually, after 4 minutes of play in the first qtr, Houston was NEVER in a

9/18/14 2:03pm

what's going on here? is this guy clueless?

9/18/14 1:25pm

No just a little ute troll getting his daily dose of fun before going back to

docrick

9/18/14 1:27pm

Would you like some assistance? Perhaps we could draw a picture for you?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:28pm

Back away from the crayons

docrick

9/18/14 1:29pm

Then how will I get my degree from byu?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:33pm

Ah, friend, don't go there

docrick

9/18/14 1:38pm

Oh so thats why the pizza delivery guy tapes his byu diploma to the windshield

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:45pm

weak...hey there is something BYU and UofU students have in common though.....

docrick

9/18/14 1:51pm

If the pizza guy wanted a real career and applied for grad school at the U

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:53pm

dude you are getting worse look.....

docrick

9/18/14 1:56pm

I'm great actually Hope you have a great day too!

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:59pm

Other Top 15 teams first three games had SOS of >80

BlackBart

9/18/14 1:23pm

One of the biggest logical fallacies inherent in these kinds of arguments

gwalker

9/18/14 1:46pm

No, I didn't say Byu was #72 in current SOS, the ESPN FPI did

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:52pm

Yes. You did. When you quote something, you're still saying it. If you

gwalker

9/18/14 1:55pm

Can't disagree with the truth.

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:58pm

But you can mislead with it.

gwalker

9/18/14 2:35pm

Answer me this

juranmb

9/18/14 1:54pm

Are you going to offer me candy to get into your van too?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:58pm

Utah football 2004 and 2008 are now going to return their trophies.

lawboy

9/18/14 2:01pm

Remind me how many ranked teams Byu plays this year? Still 0? Ok!

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:11pm

Remind me why that matters when measuring overall SOS? OK, thanks.

lawboy

9/18/14 2:15pm

Then I guess Savannah St's schedule is as worthy as Byu's with that logic

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:19pm

Ask Florida St.

cubbiecougar

9/18/14 2:06pm

LOL. Almost EXACTLY the 2004 Utes SOS according to Sagarin:

CosmosCuzzn

9/18/14 2:08pm

LOL, let's see you compare that AFTER the season when it makes sense to

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:12pm

Answer the question troll.. err.. "Realist". Your 2004 Utes (cant hide it) had

CosmosCuzzn

9/18/14 2:18pm

How many BCS bowls did Byu go to again? Still 0? OK!

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:20pm

How many NC, Heisman, Doak Walker, Davey Obrien, etc trophies do the Utes have?

CosmosCuzzn

9/18/14 2:22pm

You didn't answer the question, and now you changed the argument

jdub

9/18/14 2:25pm

When I look back on a season, all I remember is SOS. Nobody even thinks about

Broda

9/18/14 2:20pm

You are one insecure pac-12 fan.

Broda

9/18/14 2:19pm

I think you should learn your teams and how to count more accurately.

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:21pm

you're right. he meant PAC-10. UU and CU don't seem to count so far

run26

9/18/14 2:23pm

Yep, ONE team in the top 10 rankings (Oregon). Who is the other?

Broda

9/18/14 2:23pm

He is right, there are 6 in the top 10 remaining SOS list. But, that's stupid

jdub

9/18/14 2:31pm

Are you guys going to start hanging SOS banners in front of RES now?

CosmosCuzzn

9/18/14 2:27pm

only if they pull off the #2 SOS in the country -- and then followed by a parade

run26

9/18/14 2:35pm

It seems to me that a fan of another team in Utah doesn't feel like his team is

6th-Kamikaze-mission

9/18/14 2:56pm

Your argument is funny

asalt2

9/18/14 3:16pm

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