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Oct 22, 2014
1:55:16pm

concolor couguar

Excluding data is generally frowned upon unless you have a compelling reason

You are doing it for a pretty arbitrary reason. I would have had no problem including his current record a month ago if you were claiming the same thing. I think it is very likely Rose wins 70% this season. We have already had a back and forth on that issue. You are predicting NIT this year I assume?

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Let me tell you why Dave Rose gets a pass

Iman23

10/22/14 10:21am

There are multiple reasons. You nailed a few.

Walter Bellhaven

10/22/14 10:24am

Rose wins games that he is not supposed to win

BYUheaven

10/22/14 10:33am

Bronco has his fair share of those as well

concolor couguar

10/22/14 10:34am

Oklahoma, Oregon, @ TCU are the ones that come to mind. Few and far between

BYUheaven

10/22/14 10:51am

Beating Washington at home in 2010 was an upset looking back on it

concolor couguar

10/22/14 11:00am

Rose has also played 187 more games than Bronco, just sayin'

boyblue

10/22/14 1:16pm

There are also more games in Basketball

Schultz is back

10/22/14 10:26am

Plus Rose doesn't act like a mission president

mudpupper

10/22/14 10:29am

sure he does. He just handles it in a less public way

BlueK

10/22/14 10:37am

You leave off one HUGE reason....ROSE consistently gets the best LDS talent.

COUGZ

10/22/14 10:32am

That's a lot easier when the best LDS talent is in Utah

Schultz is back

10/22/14 10:38am

Utah isn't in contention for that talent in basketball

BlueK

10/22/14 10:41am

Exactly. Kalani Sitake and KW have done the same for LDS D players at Utah

COUGZ

10/22/14 10:42am

IMO, not even close. The best LDS talents comes to BYU for bball...almost

COUGZ

10/22/14 10:41am

RE: You leave off one HUGE reason....ROSE consistently gets the best LDS talent.

southernfriedcougar

10/22/14 11:17am

Rose lost two instate kids to Crisco and whiffed on Jabari

Coogar2

10/22/14 1:03pm

Just having Jabari put BYU in his top 3 speaks volumes about where this program

RisinUp

10/22/14 1:19pm

^^^ This. Poor use of the word whiff. That would suggest that Rose missed the

FierceArc

10/22/14 1:23pm

Unless his reason for leaving BYU in his top 3 never had anything to do with

RebelScum

10/22/14 1:33pm

"whiffed on Jabari." hahahaha right

southernfriedcougar

10/22/14 3:32pm

also some of the bronco angst is over teh sport

v1k0u6

10/22/14 10:35am

Wasn't it Rose who also took them out of the cellar?

sheriffcreg

10/22/14 10:41am

Steve Cleveland took them out of the 1-win season

BlueK

10/22/14 10:42am

Of course, after Reid.. anyone could have come into BYU,

10/22/14 3:56pm

Cleveland was a pretty decent recruiter and great with PR, but bad with Xs, Os

BlueK

10/23/14 9:36am

Also fantastic color guy for basketball. I think he has a future doing that if

concolor couguar

10/23/14 10:02am

I respectfully disagree.. but I like him so I hope he succeeds too

10/23/14 10:50am

That is a preference on his part. Not every coach would disagree with him.

concolor couguar

10/23/14 10:56am

In Cleveland's last year they went 9-21 but the two years before were both NCAA

RisinUp

10/22/14 10:49am

I think we're forgetting one very important piece to this, BYU BBall is exciting

RisinUp

10/22/14 10:46am

b/c he coaches basketball and not football. done, end of discussion.

nashty

10/22/14 10:59am

His win percent has dropped to 69% since joining the WCC, a step down from the

cougarick

10/22/14 11:20am

Why exclude Bronco's results from this year?

concolor couguar

10/22/14 11:26am

The season isn't over yet and would skew the results since the comparison

cougarick

10/22/14 12:40pm

Don't know why that's so funny. It was fairly straight forward. Should I have

cougarick

10/22/14 1:00pm

Excluding data is generally frowned upon unless you have a compelling reason

concolor couguar

10/22/14 1:55pm

Trying to make it as apples to apples as possible is not a compelling reason?

cougarick

10/22/14 2:13pm

No generally data is excluded because it is an outlier or there is a flaw

concolor couguar

10/22/14 2:25pm

It does in that it is not yet complete. If I took a snap shot of Rose last

cougarick

10/22/14 2:40pm

The data from those games is complete! If you were doing percent of seasons

concolor couguar

10/22/14 2:45pm

I chose to compare complete seasons. My goodness, dude, get over it.

cougarick

10/22/14 2:49pm

I was over it and you made a post specifically asking me to explain my reasoning

concolor couguar

10/22/14 2:55pm

What if I told you....

dryflyelk

10/22/14 1:34pm

.716 vs .699

concolor couguar

10/22/14 1:58pm

I prefer to remember the great wins

10/22/14 5:20pm

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