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Oct 23, 2014
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BlueK
Cleveland was a pretty decent recruiter and great with PR, but bad with Xs, Os
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Let me tell you why Dave Rose gets a pass
Iman23
10/22/14 10:21am
There are multiple reasons. You nailed a few.
Walter Bellhaven
10/22/14 10:24am
Rose wins games that he is not supposed to win
BYUheaven
10/22/14 10:33am
Bronco has his fair share of those as well
concolor couguar
10/22/14 10:34am
Oklahoma, Oregon, @ TCU are the ones that come to mind. Few and far between
BYUheaven
10/22/14 10:51am
Beating Washington at home in 2010 was an upset looking back on it
concolor couguar
10/22/14 11:00am
Rose has also played 187 more games than Bronco, just sayin'
boyblue
10/22/14 1:16pm
There are also more games in Basketball
Schultz is back
10/22/14 10:26am
Plus Rose doesn't act like a mission president
mudpupper
10/22/14 10:29am
sure he does. He just handles it in a less public way
BlueK
10/22/14 10:37am
You leave off one HUGE reason....ROSE consistently gets the best LDS talent.
COUGZ
10/22/14 10:32am
That's a lot easier when the best LDS talent is in Utah
Schultz is back
10/22/14 10:38am
Utah isn't in contention for that talent in basketball
BlueK
10/22/14 10:41am
Exactly. Kalani Sitake and KW have done the same for LDS D players at Utah
COUGZ
10/22/14 10:42am
IMO, not even close. The best LDS talents comes to BYU for bball...almost
COUGZ
10/22/14 10:41am
RE: You leave off one HUGE reason....ROSE consistently gets the best LDS talent.
southernfriedcougar
10/22/14 11:17am
Rose lost two instate kids to Crisco and whiffed on Jabari
Coogar2
10/22/14 1:03pm
Just having Jabari put BYU in his top 3 speaks volumes about where this program
RisinUp
10/22/14 1:19pm
^^^ This. Poor use of the word whiff. That would suggest that Rose missed the
FierceArc
10/22/14 1:23pm
Unless his reason for leaving BYU in his top 3 never had anything to do with
RebelScum
10/22/14 1:33pm
"whiffed on Jabari." hahahaha right
southernfriedcougar
10/22/14 3:32pm
also some of the bronco angst is over teh sport
v1k0u6
10/22/14 10:35am
Wasn't it Rose who also took them out of the cellar?
sheriffcreg
10/22/14 10:41am
Steve Cleveland took them out of the 1-win season
BlueK
10/22/14 10:42am
Of course, after Reid.. anyone could have come into BYU,
byu bcs buster
10/22/14 3:56pm
Cleveland was a pretty decent recruiter and great with PR, but bad with Xs, Os
BlueK
10/23/14 9:36am
Also fantastic color guy for basketball. I think he has a future doing that if
concolor couguar
10/23/14 10:02am
I respectfully disagree.. but I like him so I hope he succeeds too
byu bcs buster
10/23/14 10:50am
That is a preference on his part. Not every coach would disagree with him.
concolor couguar
10/23/14 10:56am
In Cleveland's last year they went 9-21 but the two years before were both NCAA
RisinUp
10/22/14 10:49am
I think we're forgetting one very important piece to this, BYU BBall is exciting
RisinUp
10/22/14 10:46am
b/c he coaches basketball and not football. done, end of discussion.
nashty
10/22/14 10:59am
His win percent has dropped to 69% since joining the WCC, a step down from the
cougarick
10/22/14 11:20am
Why exclude Bronco's results from this year?
concolor couguar
10/22/14 11:26am
The season isn't over yet and would skew the results since the comparison
cougarick
10/22/14 12:40pm
Don't know why that's so funny. It was fairly straight forward. Should I have
cougarick
10/22/14 1:00pm
Excluding data is generally frowned upon unless you have a compelling reason
concolor couguar
10/22/14 1:55pm
Trying to make it as apples to apples as possible is not a compelling reason?
cougarick
10/22/14 2:13pm
No generally data is excluded because it is an outlier or there is a flaw
concolor couguar
10/22/14 2:25pm
It does in that it is not yet complete. If I took a snap shot of Rose last
cougarick
10/22/14 2:40pm
The data from those games is complete! If you were doing percent of seasons
concolor couguar
10/22/14 2:45pm
I chose to compare complete seasons. My goodness, dude, get over it.
cougarick
10/22/14 2:49pm
I was over it and you made a post specifically asking me to explain my reasoning
concolor couguar
10/22/14 2:55pm
What if I told you....
dryflyelk
10/22/14 1:34pm
.716 vs .699
concolor couguar
10/22/14 1:58pm
I prefer to remember the great wins
Cougrrrs Roll
10/22/14 5:20pm
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byu bcs buster
10/22/14 3:52pm
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