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Oct 23, 2014
10:50:45am

byu bcs buster

I respectfully disagree.. but I like him so I hope he succeeds too

His analysis was often very flawed, IMO. For example, any open shot taken early in the shot clock was horrible. It was interesting hearing the repeated clashes between his style and that of his former assistant. Rose's style has it's issues (half court offense, defense), but I'm glad we have Rose.

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Let me tell you why Dave Rose gets a pass

Iman23

10/22/14 10:21am

There are multiple reasons. You nailed a few.

Walter Bellhaven

10/22/14 10:24am

Rose wins games that he is not supposed to win

BYUheaven

10/22/14 10:33am

Bronco has his fair share of those as well

concolor couguar

10/22/14 10:34am

Oklahoma, Oregon, @ TCU are the ones that come to mind. Few and far between

BYUheaven

10/22/14 10:51am

Beating Washington at home in 2010 was an upset looking back on it

concolor couguar

10/22/14 11:00am

Rose has also played 187 more games than Bronco, just sayin'

boyblue

10/22/14 1:16pm

There are also more games in Basketball

Schultz is back

10/22/14 10:26am

Plus Rose doesn't act like a mission president

mudpupper

10/22/14 10:29am

sure he does. He just handles it in a less public way

BlueK

10/22/14 10:37am

You leave off one HUGE reason....ROSE consistently gets the best LDS talent.

COUGZ

10/22/14 10:32am

That's a lot easier when the best LDS talent is in Utah

Schultz is back

10/22/14 10:38am

Utah isn't in contention for that talent in basketball

BlueK

10/22/14 10:41am

Exactly. Kalani Sitake and KW have done the same for LDS D players at Utah

COUGZ

10/22/14 10:42am

IMO, not even close. The best LDS talents comes to BYU for bball...almost

COUGZ

10/22/14 10:41am

RE: You leave off one HUGE reason....ROSE consistently gets the best LDS talent.

southernfriedcougar

10/22/14 11:17am

Rose lost two instate kids to Crisco and whiffed on Jabari

Coogar2

10/22/14 1:03pm

Just having Jabari put BYU in his top 3 speaks volumes about where this program

RisinUp

10/22/14 1:19pm

^^^ This. Poor use of the word whiff. That would suggest that Rose missed the

FierceArc

10/22/14 1:23pm

Unless his reason for leaving BYU in his top 3 never had anything to do with

RebelScum

10/22/14 1:33pm

"whiffed on Jabari." hahahaha right

southernfriedcougar

10/22/14 3:32pm

also some of the bronco angst is over teh sport

v1k0u6

10/22/14 10:35am

Wasn't it Rose who also took them out of the cellar?

sheriffcreg

10/22/14 10:41am

Steve Cleveland took them out of the 1-win season

BlueK

10/22/14 10:42am

Of course, after Reid.. anyone could have come into BYU,

10/22/14 3:56pm

Cleveland was a pretty decent recruiter and great with PR, but bad with Xs, Os

BlueK

10/23/14 9:36am

Also fantastic color guy for basketball. I think he has a future doing that if

concolor couguar

10/23/14 10:02am

I respectfully disagree.. but I like him so I hope he succeeds too

10/23/14 10:50am

That is a preference on his part. Not every coach would disagree with him.

concolor couguar

10/23/14 10:56am

In Cleveland's last year they went 9-21 but the two years before were both NCAA

RisinUp

10/22/14 10:49am

I think we're forgetting one very important piece to this, BYU BBall is exciting

RisinUp

10/22/14 10:46am

b/c he coaches basketball and not football. done, end of discussion.

nashty

10/22/14 10:59am

His win percent has dropped to 69% since joining the WCC, a step down from the

cougarick

10/22/14 11:20am

Why exclude Bronco's results from this year?

concolor couguar

10/22/14 11:26am

The season isn't over yet and would skew the results since the comparison

cougarick

10/22/14 12:40pm

Don't know why that's so funny. It was fairly straight forward. Should I have

cougarick

10/22/14 1:00pm

Excluding data is generally frowned upon unless you have a compelling reason

concolor couguar

10/22/14 1:55pm

Trying to make it as apples to apples as possible is not a compelling reason?

cougarick

10/22/14 2:13pm

No generally data is excluded because it is an outlier or there is a flaw

concolor couguar

10/22/14 2:25pm

It does in that it is not yet complete. If I took a snap shot of Rose last

cougarick

10/22/14 2:40pm

The data from those games is complete! If you were doing percent of seasons

concolor couguar

10/22/14 2:45pm

I chose to compare complete seasons. My goodness, dude, get over it.

cougarick

10/22/14 2:49pm

I was over it and you made a post specifically asking me to explain my reasoning

concolor couguar

10/22/14 2:55pm

What if I told you....

dryflyelk

10/22/14 1:34pm

.716 vs .699

concolor couguar

10/22/14 1:58pm

I prefer to remember the great wins

10/22/14 5:20pm

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