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Oct 23, 2014
7:31:32pm

Abe Froman

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Abe Froman

Previous username: Rise and Shout
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Joined: Nov 19, 2006
Last login: May 5, 2024
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Parenting/Gun safety question.I have an AR-15 in my bedroom closet on the top

cre1ghton

10/23/14 7:24pm

Lock it up.

OldCosmo

10/23/14 7:26pm

So old and wise

cougarnerd

10/23/14 7:44pm

Whoa, whoa, whoa, let's not get too carried away here

OldCosmo

10/23/14 8:15pm

Just get a safe. Why risk it. Inassume you have other kids nephews what not

kotacoug

10/23/14 7:26pm

Why do you need a magazine on the same shelf? Do you live in Beirut?

OpusX

10/23/14 7:29pm

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Abe Froman

10/23/14 7:31pm

well if it's not quickly accessible it's not much use

Northwest Cougar

10/23/14 7:32pm

my point exactly

cre1ghton

10/23/14 7:32pm

First an AR 15 is down the list for home defense

kotacoug

10/23/14 7:34pm

You are right but I don't own a shotgun right now.

cre1ghton

10/23/14 7:35pm

That's actually not true at all. AR-15 is THE go to weapon for home defense

binghammer

10/23/14 7:38pm

Link wouldn't open for me, but who made that list and does skill level factor at

mr_thekid

10/23/14 7:44pm

I don't care who you are, use what you are best with would be a good mantra

binghammer

10/23/14 7:52pm

Very interesting.

bluebloodedcoug

10/23/14 7:47pm

A shotgun is a lot easier to aim at some ranges. It's effectiveness and stopping

cre1ghton

10/23/14 7:51pm

surprisingly it's not

Northwest Cougar

10/23/14 7:56pm

Buckshot penetrates pretty deep and will go through drywall easier

binghammer

10/23/14 7:58pm

I only glanced through but I didnt see it talk about shotguns at all and the

concolor couguar

10/23/14 7:47pm

Exactly, it didn't talk about shotguns because it was about the 5.56 round

binghammer

10/23/14 7:57pm

I'm not saying the Ar15 is bad and I don't think the world is flat

kotacoug

10/23/14 8:12pm

What about for home offense?

Rusty Shackleford

10/23/14 8:23pm

A dozen roses and a completed "honey-do" list.

Born2Fish

10/23/14 10:25pm

8" suppressed 300 BLK for the home defense win

Fishious

10/24/14 1:02pm

Good point, I guess I could keep a magazine in another easily accessible place.

cre1ghton

10/23/14 7:32pm

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Abe Froman

10/23/14 7:33pm

Seriously?? It's not just your kid.. It could be babysitter, relatives

PenrynCoug

10/23/14 7:29pm

It's evident you have no idea what an AR-15 is ... It took me , my dad and

Zach Morris

10/23/14 7:32pm

LOL.

kccougar

10/23/14 7:40pm

What's so funny giggles? Not everyone is an expert in Guns like you.

Zach Morris

10/23/14 7:42pm

What's the point of risking it? Why not just lock it up?

mr_thekid

10/23/14 7:44pm

If you've ever loaded an Ar-15 you'd know a kid could not figure it out

Zach Morris

10/23/14 7:46pm

I have, but that's not the point. There are other risks to take into account.

mr_thekid

10/23/14 7:47pm

I am not worried about my man card. More about accessibility in the case of self

cre1ghton

10/23/14 7:52pm

I think that is fair. But a man should lock up his butcher knives,scissors

Zach Morris

10/23/14 7:55pm

Lol. Wow.

Whitey_Coug

10/23/14 9:31pm

Really?! Any 15-year old kid watching TV could figure out how to load...

CougaReb

10/23/14 10:14pm

If a "15 yr old kid" could figure that out with intent to do harm, you better

Zach Morris

10/23/14 10:48pm

As long as it's out of reach, I say you're fine...

Zach Morris

10/23/14 7:30pm

ok please never own a gun. thanks. signed, everyone else

El Joffrey

10/23/14 8:17pm

Liberal mindset: We don't trust ourselves with guns, so we don't want anyone

binghammer

10/23/14 8:19pm

Liberals I know own plenty of firearms, and use them for

So it goes...

10/23/14 11:46pm

lol, that's funny, all around, not one single fact in your post

binghammer

10/24/14 10:06am

You're welcome to your opinion but...

Zach Morris

10/23/14 8:23pm

The mind set of "As long as it's out of reach, I say you're fine" is why

So it goes...

10/23/14 11:30pm

Get a gun cabinet or a gun safe. The lower end ones aren't that expensive.

Born2Fish

10/23/14 7:30pm

I know some of the board liberals will blow up over this but

binghammer

10/23/14 7:31pm

false

PickleButton

10/23/14 7:42pm

If someone breaks in? Most gun safe's are made out of sheet metal

binghammer

10/23/14 7:47pm

I own several hundred firearms and have used them

PickleButton

10/23/14 7:53pm

I haven't owned hundreds, and I am sure you are probably older than me

binghammer

10/23/14 8:01pm

as opposed to in battle to tickle people?

BlueFrog

10/23/14 8:04pm

You point out the main distinction that polarizes the gun debate

bluebloodedcoug

10/23/14 7:57pm

With attitudes like that, no wonder there are so many accidental shootings...

So it goes...

10/23/14 11:38pm

I have them all the time at my house

binghammer

10/24/14 10:05am

There is a difference between respect and a casual approach

SouthernCoug

10/24/14 3:44pm

lol, I've stated that I lock up my firearms

binghammer

10/24/14 4:00pm

dangerous yes, but few have such an extreme downside.

Finngirl

10/24/14 4:06pm

I disagree, dead is dead

binghammer

10/24/14 5:17pm

Not sure why you are laughing. I said I don't know where you are on this

SouthernCoug

10/24/14 10:20pm

Maybe because I stated it more than once in this thread and you were not even

binghammer

10/24/14 10:56pm

I didn't claim you were irresponsible and you are correct, I did not read every

SouthernCoug

10/24/14 11:02pm

Relax.

binghammer

10/25/14 12:04am

Love the 1911...

So it goes...

10/24/14 5:44pm

Isn't keeping them locked up when not being used part of respecting them?

mr_thekid

10/23/14 7:49pm

At times perhaps

binghammer

10/23/14 8:02pm

You just broke the 1st

So it goes...

10/23/14 11:35pm

Get off your high horse, your house is littered with things far more dangerous

binghammer

10/24/14 10:08am

Are you inferring that his wife isn't old enough to look up how to load the gun?

Bruton Guster

10/24/14 2:35pm

pull the bolt and put it somewhere

tyroneweaver

10/23/14 7:33pm

That doesn't help me if I need to use it to protect my family though.

cre1ghton

10/23/14 7:34pm

I would start locking it up as soon as you bring the gun home

kccougar

10/23/14 7:35pm

You must be a crazy liberal

concolor couguar

10/23/14 7:37pm

No. Just don't see the justification for taking a dumb risk

kccougar

10/23/14 7:42pm

I lock all my guns. When I get the funds I will purchase a gun safe.

Ssebo

10/24/14 12:15am

How about just getting a dog if you're so scared of boogie men?

Ciderhouserules

10/23/14 7:37pm

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Abe Froman

10/23/14 7:40pm

They cause more deaths than cars in Utah. Some fear is justified

Ciderhouserules

10/23/14 7:42pm

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Abe Froman

10/23/14 7:44pm

K. People cause more deaths with guns than w/ cars. Some fear is justified.

Ciderhouserules

10/23/14 7:53pm

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kunarcougar

10/23/14 8:27pm

So?

Ciderhouserules

10/23/14 8:52pm

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kunarcougar

10/23/14 9:01pm

This needs to be locked up now, ASAP

PickleButton

10/23/14 7:40pm

If it's hidden in his closet, out of reach, how is that a danger to his kids?

Zach Morris

10/23/14 7:45pm

When I was 4 yrs old I found where my father hid his guns.

So it goes...

10/23/14 11:51pm

Your dad does sound irresponsible

binghammer

10/24/14 10:10am

Bigger risk is someone breaking in while you are not home and stealing it.

silent_t

10/23/14 7:48pm

^^^ this is the most legit and realistic concern.

Zach Morris

10/23/14 7:58pm

As long as the gun owner is willing to take responsibility for the harm his gun

Finngirl

10/24/14 10:13am

Lock it up. Its bad enough you have it in the home to begin with, but even the

BlueFrog

10/23/14 7:49pm

No worries, guns don't kill people

Cougarealist

10/23/14 7:51pm

Get the cheapest jewelry safe you can find ($15 at walmart) and lock up the

Lance71

10/23/14 7:53pm

You gotta weigh the risks

Yoshinobu

10/23/14 7:54pm

My father owns more guns than anyone I have ever met.

concolor couguar

10/23/14 8:00pm

Having a gun in a ready position possibly saved the lives of a Utah county

Zach Morris

10/23/14 8:09pm

That's why I suggest a 32-inch Z-core bat next to the bed.

IGlowInTheDark

10/23/14 8:43pm

This is actually a very reasonable idea.

Zach Morris

10/23/14 8:47pm

That guy didn't end up having a gun

bluebloodedcoug

10/23/14 8:52pm

Wow! Talk about risks... You're telling me you'd be gullible enough to trust

Zach Morris

10/23/14 9:16pm

I've got to agree

bluebloodedcoug

10/23/14 8:23pm

trigger lock

goofball

10/23/14 8:12pm

You must be out of your mind.

CallingDingo

10/23/14 8:16pm

Bottom line is - don't love guns more than your children...

So it goes...

10/24/14 12:08am

You shouldn't "afford" a firearm until you can pay for the lock/safe as well.

BostonCougar

10/24/14 7:47am

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