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Dec 18, 2014
1:56:27pm

PolarisPrime

My biggest deal was

Hall's Soph season the O-line was excellent. This led to a lot of excitement for his Jr season because most if not all of the line was coming back. It was also Webbers first season. The line was significantly worse and they got progressively worse until this season.

I think the whole "fast and lean" linemen experience was a major part of the problem.

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PolarisPrime

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For all the Weber haters....

LEDSFW

12/18/14 12:25pm

wait, what? I love my grill

workinglate

12/18/14 12:29pm

They were good pass blocking and really struggled to run block well though

lawboy

12/18/14 12:29pm

I agree, for the last season, but remember, Doman had moved to a new spread....

LEDSFW

12/18/14 12:36pm

How many times was garretson moving the pocket around behind the LOS?

monkeycowboy

12/18/14 12:30pm

There's more to sacks than just the OLine...

billyrust

12/18/14 12:30pm

And there's more to the OL than just sacks

CoopDizz

12/18/14 12:36pm

Sacks was the biggest criticism for ALL of you, and its laughable that...

LEDSFW

12/18/14 12:48pm

No, no. The complaint was much more about run blocking, over and over again.

yakkamole

12/18/14 1:02pm

....and the toughness and physicality of the O line

Bonoman

12/18/14 3:30pm

RE: ....and the toughness and physicality of the O line corresponded with their

LEDSFW

12/18/14 4:31pm

Answer it yourself. You brought up a bunch of "reasons" for every little

southernfriedcougar

12/18/14 1:04pm

You clearly don't get it. Move on everyone.

Ebolarama

12/18/14 1:12pm

Dude settle down. You sound like the dudes Dad.

RaggaeCoug

12/18/14 3:32pm

I remember it as mostly run blocking and not having any edge

ALC

12/18/14 4:29pm

RE: For all the Weber haters....

Mr Bassman

12/18/14 12:31pm

Your point is true, but then it is also the preference for passing teams...

LEDSFW

12/18/14 12:57pm

RE: For all the Weber haters....

Mr Bassman

12/18/14 12:33pm

nope, something like that would have nothing to do with evaluating him

kotacoug

12/18/14 12:35pm

Did you not notice the Bronco emphasis on linebackers during that time frame?

LEDSFW

12/18/14 1:00pm

You're way off base on this topic

ManicBlue

12/18/14 1:17pm

???

southernfriedcougar

12/18/14 2:22pm

Well done sir, and we all know there are NO OTHER factors that would come into

kotacoug

12/18/14 12:34pm

lol nice logic. Way to not discuss any of the important factors.

southernfriedcougar

12/18/14 12:36pm

How often does USU keep 7 or 8 guys in to block?

Ebolarama

12/18/14 12:39pm

Is he playing his own recruits yet? We're still using his.

Grit for Brains

12/18/14 12:40pm

All I know about Coach Weber is that when my son realized his knee wasn't going

OldCosmo

12/18/14 12:40pm

This was the reason Webber stuck around for so long

12/18/14 1:52pm

BTW - I love your sig gif.

12/18/14 1:53pm

Yes, by all accounts, Weber is a great guy.

Bob Vance

12/18/14 4:41pm

How many more plays are we running compared to Weber's teams at BYU and USU?

jhingman

12/18/14 12:49pm

10-15 more.

southernfriedcougar

12/18/14 1:30pm

We run more plays than we did then.

fulano

12/18/14 12:52pm

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Cougazul

12/18/14 12:56pm

It's the caliber of athletes we get, not the coaches. Great analysis.

coolblue

12/18/14 12:53pm

Learn how to spell a coaches name right before you try to sound intelligent.

coug203

12/18/14 1:04pm

Why can't you just change your name to TL;DR?

Epileptic Beagle

12/18/14 1:14pm

I wasn't a Weber hater, but it occurs to me that the read option

gwalker

12/18/14 1:28pm

I've always liked LEDSFW's posts...and then I read this one.

Super Chicken

12/18/14 7:06pm

My biggest deal was

12/18/14 1:56pm

Fast and lean was Bronco's decision and a reaction to TCU's success.

LEDSFW

12/18/14 2:00pm

It may have been his "decision" because he is the head coach

12/19/14 11:18am

With somebody else's recruits that he hasn't had long enough to taint yet.

12/18/14 2:05pm

So explain how he was considered extremely successful in his first 5 years...

LEDSFW

12/18/14 2:13pm

first five years = not his recruits

crazY

12/19/14 4:00pm

I think Nelson should start over Heaps

RunningQB

12/18/14 2:26pm

Hi Sister Weber!

SausageKing

12/18/14 2:35pm

I have three friends who played O-line in the NFL. Two of them

Iron Coug

12/18/14 2:42pm

Younger guys are starting over veterans because the veterans are bad athletes

coolblue

12/18/14 4:15pm

I don't believe that. The older guys have been so poorly taught, that the

Iron Coug

12/18/14 4:54pm

Clearly you didnt watch byu this year or last year

macaroni

12/18/14 2:58pm

Byu was #10 in the nation in

fish_tacos

12/18/14 3:16pm

Just look at our running blocking and you can see the difference.

mudpupper

12/18/14 3:52pm

The nastiness is being restored on the Oline...lost it with Weber

1984coug

12/18/14 3:58pm

Not I ...

mindzeYe

12/18/14 4:17pm

I've been a very vocal critic of Weber. He has done better than I thought he

Lance71

12/18/14 4:21pm

Even if his coaching was good, his recruiting stunk

Venom

12/18/14 4:37pm

^This

12/18/14 5:23pm

I seriously wonder how you were a professional writer sometimes, in sports no

Bob Vance

12/18/14 4:39pm

Have you read the sports page lately?

autonomous

12/18/14 5:14pm

Answer

Lionaround

12/18/14 5:16pm

System that runs 80+ plays a game w/ a freakishly athletic, running QB.

12/18/14 5:24pm

Weber is not a good coach. Based on the statistics I had BYU averaged .7 seconds

Shimmy

12/18/14 7:23pm

I think the increase in sacks has more to do with the zone read offense

MapCoug

12/19/14 9:46am

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