Also, usually the best opinion pieces...

Mar 3, 2015
1:30:44pm

KGKUGR

will have a fact based approach or tie it to a real life story or anecdote. This was strictly him spouting his opinion that seems to be off from the information that I've read from BYU's Tom Holmoe regarding the circumstances of BYU joining the WCC.

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KGKUGR

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Jay Drew's Whiny Article

crm48

3/3/15 12:47pm

A whiny Jay Drew article, aka, a Jay Drew article

mncougar

3/3/15 12:51pm

Jay Drew's Normal Article

Mexicougazul

3/3/15 12:52pm

He's ten times the writer Dick Harmon is...you just don't like the content

runnutz

3/3/15 12:52pm

Harmon seems to have been phoning it in for a decade now

concolor couguar

3/3/15 12:53pm

longer than that

runnutz

3/3/15 12:55pm

That is true. Dick used to be great, but he doesn't seem to care anymore.

CougDogg-e-Dogg

3/3/15 12:57pm

It's a lazy piece...

KGKUGR

3/3/15 1:08pm

Again, this is a column. It's not a "lazy piece of journalism." It's his opinion

mannheimadler

3/3/15 1:12pm

I understand ...

KGKUGR

3/3/15 1:16pm

Honestly, I'm not sure why this was written. It's uncharacteristic of Jay

mannheimadler

3/3/15 1:17pm

And for the record, everything he wrote, I've seen CBers say.

mannheimadler

3/3/15 1:22pm

CBers...

KGKUGR

3/3/15 1:35pm

That's the problem with addressing the Internet in general

mannheimadler

3/3/15 1:37pm

RE: That's the problem with addressing the Internet in general

KGKUGR

3/3/15 1:40pm

Also, usually the best opinion pieces...

KGKUGR

3/3/15 1:30pm

I do agree that a lot of the best opinion pieces include sources

mannheimadler

3/3/15 1:32pm

RE: I do agree that a lot of the best opinion pieces include sources

KGKUGR

3/3/15 1:37pm

I see what you mean. But the vast majority of columns don't involve sources

mannheimadler

3/3/15 1:40pm

Defend your friend, but I don't read his stuff. It's bad writing and biased

Coogar2

3/3/15 5:43pm

You can have your opinion. I can disagree.

mannheimadler

3/4/15 6:41am

SL Trib has gone the take a survey route so I never read past a few lines.

SCcoug

3/3/15 12:55pm

Not an article. A column. (Not usually what a beat writer does, but still)

mannheimadler

3/3/15 12:56pm

Here's the thing about Jay Drew - he's an idiot.

Texas Hammer

3/3/15 1:02pm

This is not true. I know Jay. He's a good guy

mannheimadler

3/3/15 1:08pm

I'm glad you know him and have a personal...

KGKUGR

3/3/15 1:13pm

Most of what he writes I think is pretty neutral. Trib Headlines often aren't

mannheimadler

3/3/15 1:15pm

Good to know....

KGKUGR

3/3/15 1:54pm

I once made a really big mistake in writing a column that I didn't vet

mannheimadler

3/3/15 2:01pm

Ok, I believe you. I retract my statement...he's not an idiot. But the paper he

Texas Hammer

3/3/15 1:24pm

I'm not a particular fan of the Trib. But Jay is the best BYU reporter

mannheimadler

3/3/15 1:27pm

you're biased.

SaintGeorgeYFan

3/3/15 3:36pm

We all have our biases. Yours is that you're a BYU fan (as am I)

mannheimadler

3/3/15 3:37pm

i have my opinion after reading much of Jay's crap.

SaintGeorgeYFan

3/3/15 10:10pm

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. Just like I'm entitled to disagree

mannheimadler

3/4/15 6:36am

This line...

AndyDwyer

3/3/15 1:08pm

The coaches (both BYU opponents and BYU) and players have commented on the refs.

BYUheaven

3/3/15 1:17pm

I agree. Thumbs down me all you want anti-WCC people but the conference ain't

BYUheaven

3/3/15 1:14pm

Again it is the content you guys have a problem with, not the journalist

runnutz

3/3/15 1:25pm

I just said I do not have a problem with the content. I agree with the content

BYUheaven

3/3/15 1:29pm

I wasn't really talking about you, just that's where the post went

runnutz

3/3/15 1:31pm

Not every reporter is going to be Greg Wrubell or Harmon

mannheimadler

3/3/15 1:30pm

Two words that are overused in local articles: Myriad and vitriol.

Ham

3/3/15 1:30pm

Those are overused in journalism in general

mannheimadler

3/3/15 1:31pm

From Jay's tweets it is clear

cougarnw

3/3/15 2:18pm

Interesting that I don't see a bunch of WCC bashing going on here.

Blue for Life

3/3/15 2:37pm

Agree 100% with Jay Drew on this article. WCC is great for BYU!

roseyscenario

3/3/15 2:41pm

Yes, but Drew said nothing else of value. He used the article to slam BYU fans

HighHorse

3/3/15 4:48pm

Good point. He could have made the case for WCC without doing that. He is a

roseyscenario

3/3/15 4:54pm

WCC was a two way street. They did us a favor and we were very good for them.

HighHorse

3/3/15 8:01pm

I like Jay's articles, but this one shows some ignorance re Sunday play...

bluefish

3/3/15 3:04pm

I work for a Jesuit university. Its basketball team plays on Sunday a lot.

mannheimadler

3/3/15 3:06pm

Also, the WCC's 2010 and 2011 tournaments had the semifinals on Sunday

mannheimadler

3/3/15 3:09pm

When did they abandon their roots? Catholics used to keep the sabbath holy...

bluefish

3/3/15 3:18pm

about 50 years ago.

roseyscenario

3/3/15 4:04pm

Drew is Eeyore.

Perpetual Itch

3/3/15 4:02pm

Dont' insult Eeyore

Coogar2

3/3/15 5:01pm

I like the WCC. And, Drew is a hater and bad writer.

Coogar2

3/3/15 5:16pm

While i agree with Drew on WCC/BYU marriage, he is utterly wrong about fan base.

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