how come intentially fouling to stop the clock is not called an intentional foul

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Mar 5, 2015
1:41:35pm

claw

how come intentially fouling to stop the clock is not called an intentional foul

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claw

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If I could change 1 rule about basketball:

tassell

3/5/15 1:07pm

Like when a driving player lunges off to the side

KingDave

3/5/15 1:11pm

Wholeheartedly agree on both points; although I have seen a positive shift on

RebelScum

3/5/15 1:56pm

Yes, like Haws and Jimmer

rggee

3/5/15 2:05pm

Likewise, if a defender in or around the key has a well-established position,

RebelScum

3/5/15 2:08pm

I though that was already the rule.

Ash

3/5/15 3:56pm

If so, it doesn't get called that. If they both leave their feet, it's almost

RebelScum

3/5/15 5:30pm

yep

cougarific

3/5/15 4:21pm

I would get rid of free throws and start a hockey type system of sitting in

RC Vikings

3/5/15 1:12pm

And you thought byus defense was bad with five players

Cougarclaw

3/5/15 1:14pm

Fouling for advantage late in games is clearly a problem. Not sure of solution.

byujdmba

3/5/15 2:41pm

Give the fouled team a choice between free throws or 1 FT + get ball back

Hinta

3/5/15 2:44pm

I like it.

db59840

3/5/15 2:54pm

Give the team with the ball the option to get the ball

Thrill

3/5/15 2:52pm

The fouled team would always take the ball out with my system.

RC Vikings

3/5/15 4:49pm

Shot clock

Real Men Wear Blue

3/5/15 1:12pm

mine:

T-Bird

3/5/15 1:13pm

Think of what the "held ball" possession rule replaced... a jump ball... so the

relic

3/5/15 1:25pm

but yeah.. it sometimes bugs me too....

relic

3/5/15 1:25pm

I hate how they call this now. Anytime a defender touches the ball

thecelloguy

3/5/15 9:51pm

Speaking of the 25 rules...

jota

3/5/15 1:15pm

correct- this happens every time a layup is completed

claw

3/5/15 1:43pm

exactly.. and I used the example of a layup to illustrate the rule

jota

3/5/15 1:44pm

One more FIBA reference - shots are the exception to the travelling rule. You

downtownchrisbrown

3/5/15 2:18pm

Again I can only speak to FIBA but when you do a jump stop both feet become

downtownchrisbrown

3/5/15 2:16pm

Help me understand this one

SpecialT

3/5/15 1:44pm

if you stop and pivot then perform a jump shot is it a travel when the pivot foo

claw

3/5/15 1:48pm

Obviously no--but that doesn't address the hypothetical of hopping on one foot

SpecialT

3/5/15 1:59pm

obviously can't hop around-once both feet leave the ground you are done

claw

3/5/15 2:05pm

What rules do they use? I ref FIBA, and if you lift pivot before dribbling it

downtownchrisbrown

3/5/15 2:14pm

Not exactly correct as cited

SconnieCoug

3/6/15 7:44am

Raise the rim to 12 feet.

Blue Print

3/5/15 1:18pm

What would this solve?

RC Vikings

3/5/15 1:19pm

Pull people away from the basket and decrease contact.

Blue Print

3/5/15 1:25pm

and make the game look like high school girls basketball...

icecougar

3/5/15 4:19pm

It's probably not a rule but the enforcement: loose balls/jump balls

fattycoug

3/5/15 1:18pm

That is a lot of charging calls. I don't like it at all.

Walter Bellhaven

3/5/15 1:40pm

So instead we got a lot of defensive fouls

StealingHome

3/5/15 1:47pm

How many times does a defender bail out and still make contact?

Walter Bellhaven

3/5/15 2:03pm

Not at all. There wouldn't need to be any increase in offensive fouls

tassell

3/5/15 4:55pm

how come intentially fouling to stop the clock is not called an intentional foul

claw

3/5/15 1:41pm

Intentional foul shouldn't even be a rule (if it is). Either the foul is

db59840

3/5/15 1:50pm

Seriously. I think the word "intentional" is misleading and should be changed

credfern84

3/5/15 2:07pm

What's an intentional foul? No such thing.

rggee

3/5/15 2:10pm

True. Not any more. I think this issue was solved already.

RebelScum

3/5/15 2:14pm

Yep, in 2011, NCAA got rid of "intentional fouls," changed to Flagrant 1 or

fredgarvin

3/5/15 3:15pm

It was in reference to the original doc written for HS basketball, in which

credfern84

3/6/15 3:07pm

The defender should have the right to the space immediately over his head/feet.

ol' Blue Eyes

3/5/15 1:41pm

Also...call it the Waldow rule...an offensive player should not be able to

ol' Blue Eyes

3/5/15 1:43pm

Agreed. In fact, that's how the rules are pretty much written. They're just not

db59840

3/5/15 1:52pm

We have the NBA and Shaq to thank for this one I think.

Ash

3/5/15 3:59pm

People falling down getting called for a travel. Travelling should only be

downtownchrisbrown

3/5/15 2:12pm

Shot Clock needs to be shortened

RockyBalboa

3/5/15 3:03pm

This is such an obvious fix, it's unbelievable they haven't done it yet.

3/5/15 3:05pm

Does utah have a shot clock in high school?

sdg_coug

3/5/15 4:17pm

not a rule I'd change, 2 rules I'd enforce that get ignored (drives me nuts!)...

icecougar

3/5/15 4:05pm

another thing that drives me nuts...

icecougar

3/5/15 4:15pm

I think a flop should be a foul on the flopper

HarlemCoug

3/5/15 4:10pm

flopping is already ruled a technical foul

sdg_coug

3/5/15 4:13pm

It is just VERY rare to see it.

db59840

3/5/15 4:13pm

I've only called that once in the last 15 years

sdg_coug

3/5/15 4:21pm

Lol on that last one. Yeah, it's hard to follow all the rules as a ref

db59840

3/5/15 4:42pm

5 seconds closely guarded rule

BigSmooth

3/5/15 4:45pm

Or at least enforce the current rule. It's supposed to be that the count

db59840

3/5/15 4:46pm

That is such a stupid rule.

fredgarvin

3/5/15 4:51pm

This is what most church ball experienced players think

Big Daddy D

3/6/15 9:44am

? I hate watching basketball games where the ref spends all his time constantly

fredgarvin

3/6/15 10:08am

There are three refs. They are not all counting, just the top guy closest

Big Daddy D

3/6/15 12:18pm

The five second rule is awesome because it rewards defensive tenacity

Big Daddy D

3/6/15 9:43am

It doesn't do that, it just makes the defense try to guard someone 40 feet

fredgarvin

3/6/15 10:10am

You just don't understand the game!

wapiti

3/5/15 10:37pm

I would add to this that such initiated contact by offensive player

QBarrister

3/6/15 8:13am

No traveling. No fouls. Place hoop at floor level and extend it the length of

RugbyCoug

3/6/15 10:25am

I would not allow a team after scoring a bucket to call timeout!

Ycrazy

3/6/15 11:05am

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