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Mar 6, 2015
12:18:58pm

Big Daddy D

There are three refs. They are not all counting, just the top guy closest

If there is contact away from the ball it is usually the responsibility of the other two refs.

However, I do agree with you about the need for a fast shot clock. And I was kidding with you about church ball because of all the soft zone defense with zero ball pressure you find in church ball.

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Big Daddy D

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If I could change 1 rule about basketball:

tassell

3/5/15 1:07pm

Like when a driving player lunges off to the side

KingDave

3/5/15 1:11pm

Wholeheartedly agree on both points; although I have seen a positive shift on

RebelScum

3/5/15 1:56pm

Yes, like Haws and Jimmer

rggee

3/5/15 2:05pm

Likewise, if a defender in or around the key has a well-established position,

RebelScum

3/5/15 2:08pm

I though that was already the rule.

Ash

3/5/15 3:56pm

If so, it doesn't get called that. If they both leave their feet, it's almost

RebelScum

3/5/15 5:30pm

yep

cougarific

3/5/15 4:21pm

I would get rid of free throws and start a hockey type system of sitting in

RC Vikings

3/5/15 1:12pm

And you thought byus defense was bad with five players

Cougarclaw

3/5/15 1:14pm

Fouling for advantage late in games is clearly a problem. Not sure of solution.

byujdmba

3/5/15 2:41pm

Give the fouled team a choice between free throws or 1 FT + get ball back

Hinta

3/5/15 2:44pm

I like it.

db59840

3/5/15 2:54pm

Give the team with the ball the option to get the ball

Thrill

3/5/15 2:52pm

The fouled team would always take the ball out with my system.

RC Vikings

3/5/15 4:49pm

Shot clock

Real Men Wear Blue

3/5/15 1:12pm

mine:

T-Bird

3/5/15 1:13pm

Think of what the "held ball" possession rule replaced... a jump ball... so the

relic

3/5/15 1:25pm

but yeah.. it sometimes bugs me too....

relic

3/5/15 1:25pm

I hate how they call this now. Anytime a defender touches the ball

thecelloguy

3/5/15 9:51pm

Speaking of the 25 rules...

jota

3/5/15 1:15pm

correct- this happens every time a layup is completed

claw

3/5/15 1:43pm

exactly.. and I used the example of a layup to illustrate the rule

jota

3/5/15 1:44pm

One more FIBA reference - shots are the exception to the travelling rule. You

downtownchrisbrown

3/5/15 2:18pm

Again I can only speak to FIBA but when you do a jump stop both feet become

downtownchrisbrown

3/5/15 2:16pm

Help me understand this one

SpecialT

3/5/15 1:44pm

if you stop and pivot then perform a jump shot is it a travel when the pivot foo

claw

3/5/15 1:48pm

Obviously no--but that doesn't address the hypothetical of hopping on one foot

SpecialT

3/5/15 1:59pm

obviously can't hop around-once both feet leave the ground you are done

claw

3/5/15 2:05pm

What rules do they use? I ref FIBA, and if you lift pivot before dribbling it

downtownchrisbrown

3/5/15 2:14pm

Not exactly correct as cited

SconnieCoug

3/6/15 7:44am

Raise the rim to 12 feet.

Blue Print

3/5/15 1:18pm

What would this solve?

RC Vikings

3/5/15 1:19pm

Pull people away from the basket and decrease contact.

Blue Print

3/5/15 1:25pm

and make the game look like high school girls basketball...

icecougar

3/5/15 4:19pm

It's probably not a rule but the enforcement: loose balls/jump balls

fattycoug

3/5/15 1:18pm

That is a lot of charging calls. I don't like it at all.

Walter Bellhaven

3/5/15 1:40pm

So instead we got a lot of defensive fouls

StealingHome

3/5/15 1:47pm

How many times does a defender bail out and still make contact?

Walter Bellhaven

3/5/15 2:03pm

Not at all. There wouldn't need to be any increase in offensive fouls

tassell

3/5/15 4:55pm

how come intentially fouling to stop the clock is not called an intentional foul

claw

3/5/15 1:41pm

Intentional foul shouldn't even be a rule (if it is). Either the foul is

db59840

3/5/15 1:50pm

Seriously. I think the word "intentional" is misleading and should be changed

credfern84

3/5/15 2:07pm

What's an intentional foul? No such thing.

rggee

3/5/15 2:10pm

True. Not any more. I think this issue was solved already.

RebelScum

3/5/15 2:14pm

Yep, in 2011, NCAA got rid of "intentional fouls," changed to Flagrant 1 or

fredgarvin

3/5/15 3:15pm

It was in reference to the original doc written for HS basketball, in which

credfern84

3/6/15 3:07pm

The defender should have the right to the space immediately over his head/feet.

ol' Blue Eyes

3/5/15 1:41pm

Also...call it the Waldow rule...an offensive player should not be able to

ol' Blue Eyes

3/5/15 1:43pm

Agreed. In fact, that's how the rules are pretty much written. They're just not

db59840

3/5/15 1:52pm

We have the NBA and Shaq to thank for this one I think.

Ash

3/5/15 3:59pm

People falling down getting called for a travel. Travelling should only be

downtownchrisbrown

3/5/15 2:12pm

Shot Clock needs to be shortened

RockyBalboa

3/5/15 3:03pm

This is such an obvious fix, it's unbelievable they haven't done it yet.

3/5/15 3:05pm

Does utah have a shot clock in high school?

sdg_coug

3/5/15 4:17pm

not a rule I'd change, 2 rules I'd enforce that get ignored (drives me nuts!)...

icecougar

3/5/15 4:05pm

another thing that drives me nuts...

icecougar

3/5/15 4:15pm

I think a flop should be a foul on the flopper

HarlemCoug

3/5/15 4:10pm

flopping is already ruled a technical foul

sdg_coug

3/5/15 4:13pm

It is just VERY rare to see it.

db59840

3/5/15 4:13pm

I've only called that once in the last 15 years

sdg_coug

3/5/15 4:21pm

Lol on that last one. Yeah, it's hard to follow all the rules as a ref

db59840

3/5/15 4:42pm

5 seconds closely guarded rule

BigSmooth

3/5/15 4:45pm

Or at least enforce the current rule. It's supposed to be that the count

db59840

3/5/15 4:46pm

That is such a stupid rule.

fredgarvin

3/5/15 4:51pm

This is what most church ball experienced players think

Big Daddy D

3/6/15 9:44am

? I hate watching basketball games where the ref spends all his time constantly

fredgarvin

3/6/15 10:08am

There are three refs. They are not all counting, just the top guy closest

Big Daddy D

3/6/15 12:18pm

The five second rule is awesome because it rewards defensive tenacity

Big Daddy D

3/6/15 9:43am

It doesn't do that, it just makes the defense try to guard someone 40 feet

fredgarvin

3/6/15 10:10am

You just don't understand the game!

wapiti

3/5/15 10:37pm

I would add to this that such initiated contact by offensive player

QBarrister

3/6/15 8:13am

No traveling. No fouls. Place hoop at floor level and extend it the length of

RugbyCoug

3/6/15 10:25am

I would not allow a team after scoring a bucket to call timeout!

Ycrazy

3/6/15 11:05am

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