Paths of the Dead, no Entmoot, Sam in Minas Ithil, Scouring of the Shire

Mar 30, 2015
3:10:42pm

GuitarGuy

The Deus ex Machina is a recurring theme in Tolkien. Happens in The Hobbit as well. A little bit of a cop-out, but not enough to spoil the book, for me.

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GuitarGuy

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I'd like to hear reasons for why ROTK is better than TT.

byujacob

3/30/15 3:04pm

It was epic!

bushy7

3/30/15 3:06pm

Or was it epic-er?

byujacob

3/30/15 3:06pm

It contains fewer heinous story changes

CoopDizz

3/30/15 3:10pm

Paths of the Dead, no Entmoot, Sam in Minas Ithil, Scouring of the Shire

GuitarGuy

3/30/15 3:10pm

Why do you mention the Scouring of the Shire when it was cut?

byujacob

3/30/15 3:16pm

Never said it was movie-only anywhere. I prefer the books.

GuitarGuy

3/30/15 5:01pm

You're right. My bad. I assumed since people saw me linking the previous thread

byujacob

3/30/15 6:23pm

Agree with GuitarGuy. Are you referring to the eagles specifically?

flavordave

3/30/15 3:12pm

No I'm referring to the Battle at Pelennor Fields and the Dead Men of Dunharrow.

byujacob

3/30/15 3:15pm

I can agree with that.

flavordave

3/30/15 3:16pm

No, no, no, no, no

CoopDizz

3/30/15 3:18pm

I'll agree to disagree with you there.

byujacob

3/30/15 3:22pm

From a storytelling standpoint, it's better to have contrasts and foils

CoopDizz

3/30/15 3:30pm

Calm down. No one said anything about knowing more than anyone else.

byujacob

3/30/15 3:36pm

I'm fine. When you're an author making a general statement about writing . . .

CoopDizz

3/30/15 3:46pm

That's fair enough, but I am not a film maker, and I was referring to the film

byujacob

3/30/15 3:52pm

'preciate the clarification

CoopDizz

3/30/15 3:55pm

Yeah I don't like how Faramir tries to take them to Gondor. It cracks me up when

ByuImaginesDragons

3/31/15 1:01am

That's a good point about the ghosts, never thought of that

ByuImaginesDragons

3/31/15 12:58am

Never underestimate Tolkien purist rage

Deadpool

3/30/15 3:15pm

True. See my response to flavordave.

byujacob

3/30/15 3:16pm

Eagles, Trees, Dead Army, Eagles, Eagles, Eagles, ManBear

Sandstone Cougar

3/30/15 3:20pm

Would've been nice to have a scene with Tauriel and Fili/Kili? holding hands and

byujacob

3/30/15 3:27pm

. . . until Jack and Sawyer show up, putting Tauriel in a dilemma spanning 110

Sandstone Cougar

3/30/15 3:34pm

They had enough of elf/dwarf love triangle in Hobbit *rolls eyes*

ByuImaginesDragons

3/31/15 1:07am

Because the TT was a bridge movie. A very good one, but still a bridge.

Turnpike Lane

3/30/15 4:31pm

Interesting thoughts.

byujacob

3/30/15 6:25pm

Yeah, but Empire Strikes Back.

Shimmy

3/30/15 6:30pm

I don't know...but I liked RotK the best. Maybe had more emotions I could relate

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