Some BYU fans are less willing to call BYU P5 than objective outsiders are.

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Apr 1, 2015
3:37:22pm

Oceanographer

Some BYU fans are less willing to call BYU P5 than objective outsiders are.

BYU is considered P5 by those who matter and that is all that matters. We have our foot in the door. Right now, that is all that we can ask. If we win, we will continue be considered P5. The trends for BYU right now are very positive. I'm sorry that some can't see that.

Just. Win.

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Sporting News: "The Cougars, however, technically count as a Power 5 school"

cougforever

4/1/15 11:45am

I wish we counted as a P5 where it really mattered and not just scheduling

El Joffrey

4/1/15 11:48am

Where does it really matter?

4/1/15 11:49am

Scheduling

newey-west

4/1/15 11:50am

Money & access to NY6 bowls and playoffs

BYUMizzou

4/1/15 11:51am

Money and access will come as BYU schedules

newey-west

4/1/15 11:52am

Exactly.

4/1/15 11:53am

access equal to p5 access comes only through p5 membership

El Joffrey

4/1/15 11:55am

He's talking access to a playoff or BCS games. And that is achieved, by playing

4/1/15 11:56am

P5 level access comes from being a P5 member.

DapperDan

4/1/15 11:57am

see: Notre Dame/ACC football agreement

cougforever

4/1/15 11:59am

Comparisons to ND will be relevant when BYU has a contract with a NY6 bowl

DapperDan

4/1/15 12:03pm

Whereas 5 years ago no one would have believed the position BYU is in right now

cougforever

4/1/15 12:12pm

There's a gap the size of the Valles Marineris between being contracted with

DapperDan

4/1/15 12:28pm

It's not just me making the comparison

cougforever

4/1/15 12:35pm

Unless you're looking for attaboys, that doesn't get us in a conference

DapperDan

4/1/15 12:36pm

It does, however, get us closer to what Notre Dame has been working for as

cougforever

4/1/15 12:42pm

I don't have 100 years and neither does Holmoe. There's a reason why he's put

DapperDan

4/1/15 12:47pm

Without a doubt. All I'm saying is that there are some valid comparisons.

cougforever

4/1/15 1:14pm

That's the thing. We aren't really moving closer, we're just staying afloat

DapperDan

4/1/15 1:37pm

Tell me this. When was the last time a team - ANY TEAM - was able to schedule

cougforever

4/1/15 1:45pm

ND would be the only other school

Heinz57

4/1/15 1:47pm

We'll see if that home game ever happens. I have my doubts.

DapperDan

4/1/15 2:10pm

There is a reason Holmoe is so anxious to get us into a P5 conference...

4/1/15 12:32pm

Which NY6 bowl does ND have a contract with?

TrueAndBlue

4/1/15 1:06pm

Orange

DapperDan

4/1/15 1:39pm

What is P5 level access? Do you mean preferential treatment for winning a CCG?

4/1/15 1:12pm

Yes

DapperDan

4/1/15 1:39pm

"Other" access is gained through winning against a tough schedule. And BYU has

4/1/15 2:00pm

The barrier for entry is significantly lower with auto-bids. It's been proven

DapperDan

4/1/15 2:05pm

Taking into account the SOS that comes with those auto-bids for NY6 bowls,

4/1/15 3:01pm

BYU will never pull in the cash that the SEC/B1G schools are as an independent

BYUMizzou

4/1/15 12:02pm

The only important thing in that post is "winning big games"

coug203

4/1/15 12:25pm

Winning is definitely the most important factor, but

newey-west

4/1/15 3:25pm

P5 teams yes, not G5 teams

Heinz57

4/1/15 3:35pm

A seat in the Club when it meets privately, every January,

4/1/15 12:07pm

That'd be cool if we were invited. In the meantime, we're in the best possible

mulletYno

4/1/15 11:51am

This P5 news is the best thing to happen to BYU in a long time.

Mickey

4/1/15 11:55am

this even more impressive than byu's strong showing in the Director's Cup

run26

4/1/15 12:00pm

Where are the PAC12er's?

4/1/15 12:00pm

MIA

BYUMizzou

4/1/15 12:03pm

But they are the P5 giants

4/1/15 12:09pm

"technically" smh.

4/1/15 12:11pm

yeah, technically they're not even if they are considered P5 by some.

Belboz

4/1/15 12:25pm

Sporting News: seven games should be played every year

Y2k

4/1/15 12:46pm

Did they base their rankings solely on record?

Ulysses14

4/1/15 12:54pm

Nice find. I just heard a discussion on this topic on sports radio, and BYU was

Japan Coug

4/1/15 1:11pm

What kind of BYU homer criteria are they using?

4/1/15 1:54pm

Some BYU fans are less willing to call BYU P5 than objective outsiders are.

4/1/15 3:37pm

Just the informed fans.

OptimisTIC

4/1/15 3:42pm

Yep. Tell me more about the Big 12...

4/1/15 3:50pm

And look at the bowl games we go to

run26

4/1/15 5:05pm

I'm glad your attitude isn't held by the ADs of the other P5 schools.

4/1/15 8:12pm

Except that Boise got in with 2 losses

4/2/15 12:27am

not really. Boise St. has a 10 year history of credibility that BYU doesnt have

run26

4/2/15 7:43am

And yet it is BYU that is considered P5, while Boise, deserving or not, isn't.

4/2/15 2:01pm

that's because by definition BSU can't be P5 since they are in a non-P5 conferen

run26

4/2/15 2:09pm

So you agree with the rules that support your position (i.e. the definition of a

4/2/15 2:23pm

correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it just the SEC and ACC who said BYU is P5?

run26

4/2/15 2:33pm

The SEC is the only one that matters - and I am not a huge fan of the SEC.

4/2/15 2:40pm

just remember that what they give they can take away

run26

4/2/15 2:45pm

Agreed, but that doesn't change where BYU is at right now, which is better

4/2/15 2:54pm

BYU has a 40-year history of credibility that Boise St doesn't yet have, and

Japan Coug

4/2/15 5:48pm

which team (BSU or BYU) do you think has more f-ball cred right now?

run26

4/2/15 7:04pm

With an SEC or ACC team scheduling an OOC game for 8 years from now? Isn't the

Japan Coug

4/2/15 8:20pm

Some writers have nothing better to write about.

digitalayon

4/1/15 3:49pm

April fools

jkccoug

4/1/15 8:11pm

If we are already a P5 ...

4/2/15 8:19pm

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