And look at the bowl games we go to

Apr 1, 2015
5:05:00pm

run26

Granted, if we win more we MIGHT go to a NY bowl. But as it stands byu has to basically go undefeated to avoid playing in crap bowls. I will grant byu P5 status when BYU goes to a real bowl not played in December.

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Sporting News: "The Cougars, however, technically count as a Power 5 school"

cougforever

4/1/15 11:45am

I wish we counted as a P5 where it really mattered and not just scheduling

El Joffrey

4/1/15 11:48am

Where does it really matter?

Gentleman Stan

4/1/15 11:49am

Scheduling

newey-west

4/1/15 11:50am

Money & access to NY6 bowls and playoffs

BYUMizzou

4/1/15 11:51am

Money and access will come as BYU schedules

newey-west

4/1/15 11:52am

Exactly.

Gentleman Stan

4/1/15 11:53am

access equal to p5 access comes only through p5 membership

El Joffrey

4/1/15 11:55am

He's talking access to a playoff or BCS games. And that is achieved, by playing

Gentleman Stan

4/1/15 11:56am

P5 level access comes from being a P5 member.

DapperDan

4/1/15 11:57am

see: Notre Dame/ACC football agreement

cougforever

4/1/15 11:59am

Comparisons to ND will be relevant when BYU has a contract with a NY6 bowl

DapperDan

4/1/15 12:03pm

Whereas 5 years ago no one would have believed the position BYU is in right now

cougforever

4/1/15 12:12pm

There's a gap the size of the Valles Marineris between being contracted with

DapperDan

4/1/15 12:28pm

It's not just me making the comparison

cougforever

4/1/15 12:35pm

Unless you're looking for attaboys, that doesn't get us in a conference

DapperDan

4/1/15 12:36pm

It does, however, get us closer to what Notre Dame has been working for as

cougforever

4/1/15 12:42pm

I don't have 100 years and neither does Holmoe. There's a reason why he's put

DapperDan

4/1/15 12:47pm

Without a doubt. All I'm saying is that there are some valid comparisons.

cougforever

4/1/15 1:14pm

That's the thing. We aren't really moving closer, we're just staying afloat

DapperDan

4/1/15 1:37pm

Tell me this. When was the last time a team - ANY TEAM - was able to schedule

cougforever

4/1/15 1:45pm

ND would be the only other school

Heinz57

4/1/15 1:47pm

We'll see if that home game ever happens. I have my doubts.

DapperDan

4/1/15 2:10pm

There is a reason Holmoe is so anxious to get us into a P5 conference...

Perpetual Itch

4/1/15 12:32pm

Which NY6 bowl does ND have a contract with?

TrueAndBlue

4/1/15 1:06pm

Orange

DapperDan

4/1/15 1:39pm

What is P5 level access? Do you mean preferential treatment for winning a CCG?

Gentleman Stan

4/1/15 1:12pm

Yes

DapperDan

4/1/15 1:39pm

"Other" access is gained through winning against a tough schedule. And BYU has

Gentleman Stan

4/1/15 2:00pm

The barrier for entry is significantly lower with auto-bids. It's been proven

DapperDan

4/1/15 2:05pm

Taking into account the SOS that comes with those auto-bids for NY6 bowls,

Gentleman Stan

4/1/15 3:01pm

BYU will never pull in the cash that the SEC/B1G schools are as an independent

BYUMizzou

4/1/15 12:02pm

The only important thing in that post is "winning big games"

coug203

4/1/15 12:25pm

Winning is definitely the most important factor, but

newey-west

4/1/15 3:25pm

P5 teams yes, not G5 teams

Heinz57

4/1/15 3:35pm

A seat in the Club when it meets privately, every January,

Everymancoug

4/1/15 12:07pm

That'd be cool if we were invited. In the meantime, we're in the best possible

mulletYno

4/1/15 11:51am

This P5 news is the best thing to happen to BYU in a long time.

Mickey

4/1/15 11:55am

this even more impressive than byu's strong showing in the Director's Cup

run26

4/1/15 12:00pm

Where are the PAC12er's?

Smoke Monster

4/1/15 12:00pm

MIA

BYUMizzou

4/1/15 12:03pm

But they are the P5 giants

Smoke Monster

4/1/15 12:09pm

"technically" smh.

Perpetual Itch

4/1/15 12:11pm

yeah, technically they're not even if they are considered P5 by some.

Belboz

4/1/15 12:25pm

Sporting News: seven games should be played every year

Y2k

4/1/15 12:46pm

Did they base their rankings solely on record?

Ulysses14

4/1/15 12:54pm

Nice find. I just heard a discussion on this topic on sports radio, and BYU was

Japan Coug

4/1/15 1:11pm

What kind of BYU homer criteria are they using?

CarolinaCoug

4/1/15 1:54pm

Some BYU fans are less willing to call BYU P5 than objective outsiders are.

Oceanographer

4/1/15 3:37pm

Just the informed fans.

OptimisTIC

4/1/15 3:42pm

Yep. Tell me more about the Big 12...

Oceanographer

4/1/15 3:50pm

And look at the bowl games we go to

run26

4/1/15 5:05pm

I'm glad your attitude isn't held by the ADs of the other P5 schools.

Oceanographer

4/1/15 8:12pm

Except that Boise got in with 2 losses

PolarisPrime

4/2/15 12:27am

not really. Boise St. has a 10 year history of credibility that BYU doesnt have

run26

4/2/15 7:43am

And yet it is BYU that is considered P5, while Boise, deserving or not, isn't.

Oceanographer

4/2/15 2:01pm

that's because by definition BSU can't be P5 since they are in a non-P5 conferen

run26

4/2/15 2:09pm

So you agree with the rules that support your position (i.e. the definition of a

Oceanographer

4/2/15 2:23pm

correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it just the SEC and ACC who said BYU is P5?

run26

4/2/15 2:33pm

The SEC is the only one that matters - and I am not a huge fan of the SEC.

Oceanographer

4/2/15 2:40pm

just remember that what they give they can take away

run26

4/2/15 2:45pm

Agreed, but that doesn't change where BYU is at right now, which is better

Oceanographer

4/2/15 2:54pm

BYU has a 40-year history of credibility that Boise St doesn't yet have, and

Japan Coug

4/2/15 5:48pm

which team (BSU or BYU) do you think has more f-ball cred right now?

run26

4/2/15 7:04pm

With an SEC or ACC team scheduling an OOC game for 8 years from now? Isn't the

Japan Coug

4/2/15 8:20pm

Some writers have nothing better to write about.

digitalayon

4/1/15 3:49pm

April fools

jkccoug

4/1/15 8:11pm

If we are already a P5 ...

Perpetual Itch

4/2/15 8:19pm

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