year. You're talking about the handful of teams that get the best of the best recruits every year and who have a pipline of talent 3 or 4 deep at every position. That's not BYU.

That being said, I do think we should expect BYU to put together good seasons regularly. 8-5 could be considered "good" depending on who is on the schedule. The past few years the 8-5 records have been marginal at best. 8 or 9 wins this coming year, depending on how good the teams we play end up being, could very well be considered "good." It also might be BYU underperforming again.