Also the discussion was talking about having a good LDS single scene at Stanford. Frank is 17, and will graduate early, then after state he would go to Stanford and still only be 17 in an older singles LDS community. (I think Duke is a near lock, but his mom does like Stanford) So because of his age- the pull for a great social experience at Stanford doesn't exist. at least its not much higher than Dukes- and clearly not even close to BYU's LDS singles experience.