Agreed. I believe many would be accepting and know we are a notch below P5.

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Sep 20, 2017
8:34:58am

Cougstreak Walk-on

Agreed. I believe many would be accepting and know we are a notch below P5.

We are not and will never consistently be a top tier P5 program, too much against us.

Now I am now waiting on the debate how we deserve it more than Washington St, Iowa St, Kansas, Wake Forrest....etc. Unfortunately it is what it is.

We need to focus on being good and having a very good team every 4-5 years. We are a notch down and anyone else who says otherwise is in la la land. Doesn't mean we can't love byu but it is what it is and is very unlikely to change.

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Vale Hale on Criddle was very good. Walking through history of BYU athletics. One interesting comment on the honor code

SouthernBlueBlood All-American

9/20/17 7:47am

I'm not sure why MWC gets brought up. If byu joined a conference it would be AAC

thebruce

9/20/17 7:51am

I didn't mean to suggest one conference over another- I was referring to MWC/AAC as the suggested sustainable concept. I

SouthernBlueBlood

9/20/17 7:58am

Which is the same thing. G5 is G5.

LiveCoug

9/20/17 8:01am

More upside, bigger and better cities in the AAC. Better commissioner. Better

Polecat

9/20/17 8:34am

That's great. Still G5

LiveCoug

9/20/17 8:43am

You don't still think a P5 invite will come, do you? It won't.

Polecat

9/20/17 8:45am

Not in the forseeable future, but G5 is give up suicide. That's it. Stay the indy course.

LiveCoug

9/20/17 8:48am

It might be suicide for the fan base's egos, but I personally don't see how it's

Polecat

9/20/17 8:50am

Financial suicide. Make more money as indy than G5

gmj81

9/20/17 12:29pm

Yep.

9/20/17 10:32am

Suicide for the program is not g5 v p5. Suicide is when we can't make enough $

thebruce

9/20/17 10:50am

Which is why AAC is already the best option.

Polecat

9/20/17 12:30pm

Only if we can't get a good TV deal as indy.

thebruce

9/20/17 1:35pm

If we are picking AAC all day over MWC but I'm asking generically

SouthernBlueBlood

9/20/17 8:43am

boise and BYU to the aac isn't ideal but I could think of worse scenarios

MormonThug

9/20/17 9:48am

We are only a glorified g5 right now.

thebruce

9/20/17 8:38am

We're dying. It's easy to see it.

9/20/17 8:01am

I'm not saying I feel differently but do you see how G5 is sustainable?

SouthernBlueBlood

9/20/17 8:02am

It's sustainable for all the other G5's they're not dropping sports

franklyvulgar

9/20/17 8:07am

BYU isn't dropping sports either

Sea Chicken

9/20/17 9:16am

Of course it's sustainable on paper. But it means

9/20/17 8:13am

I think there are many in our fanbase that welcome BYU accepting G5 status

franklyvulgar

9/20/17 8:24am

Agreed. I believe many would be accepting and know we are a notch below P5.

Cougstreak

9/20/17 8:34am

If we are I don't think we stay competive in FBS over the course of 15 years even in G5-

SouthernBlueBlood

9/20/17 8:45am

The big thing from coaches and Tom is the money. Where is the money? G5 will mean reductions across the board

SouthernBlueBlood

9/20/17 8:26am

For sure. Less money. Less coaching money.

9/20/17 10:16am

If BYU can't make it then all G5 non-basketball elite programs can't either

Bobmarleyjr

9/20/17 3:03pm

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Abe Froman

9/20/17 8:25am

I listened to it 5 times because I was surprised. Listen to the podcast- maybe I got the wrong word but intent is

SouthernBlueBlood

9/20/17 8:28am

Should say I 15 SEC backup on that part because I was surprised

SouthernBlueBlood

9/20/17 8:29am

He said it seemed like it used to be that way

I'mBatman

9/20/17 2:21pm

I was on the Honor Code Council. I can confirm that many did relish catching

SoCalCoug

9/20/17 11:58am

TH has always been clear that sustainability

Everyman

9/20/17 8:52am

It would be wiser to position ourselves as a competitive G5 than P5 pretender

franklyvulgar

9/20/17 8:55am

What made me sad from that interview is when he talked about

che flaco

9/20/17 8:54am

Yes I agree

SouthernBlueBlood

9/20/17 9:08am

People need to stop saying independence is unsustainable. It is a half truth...

9/20/17 9:34am

That's what i think I'm trying to drive at

SouthernBlueBlood

9/20/17 9:38am

Define the program BYU wants to be that to me is the root of the problem BYU

franklyvulgar

9/20/17 9:46am

Indy is just fine to reach those goals. Losing is the problem.

DirtyWater

9/21/17 4:57am

Last time he was on he also mentioned the Pac10 wanted BYU years ago

Y4LYFE

9/20/17 10:35am

He talked about this as well as Big12 and Anne Richards

SouthernBlueBlood

9/20/17 11:05am

No he said BYU was never really even close to being invited.

Bobmarleyjr

9/21/17 12:30pm

Keep in mind Mr Hale is the Brandon Doman of scorned Admins.

mantis mutu

9/20/17 11:20am

Both examples may be true.....

Cougstreak

9/20/17 4:57pm

I think it's hard not to grind an ax when you feel you've been slighted.

mantis mutu

9/20/17 6:12pm

Doman doesn't come across that way at all.

thebruce

9/20/17 6:41pm

Haven't listened to him for couple yrs, but that's mostly what I heard back then

mantis mutu

9/20/17 8:16pm

Independence is not sustainable, but neither is a G5 football sustainable

84 Grad

9/20/17 11:26am

G5 is also unsustainable. We need to find a more secure source of income

Resurgens

9/20/17 3:00pm

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