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Sep 25, 2017
10:43:59am

Backcountry All-American

They aren't in a great position, but ours is worse.

We are required to be self sustaining. We get no help from public money. We won't include athletics fees in student tuition. We are potentially one scandal away from having the plug pulled completely. There are a lot of legitimate reasons why Boise is in a better position long term than byu.

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Backcountry

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G5 vs Indy conversation jumped the shark long ago. We get it, for what ever

Cougarpolis

9/25/17 9:20am

If BYU joins a G5, my interest in BYU FB will diminish significantly.

Ragnar Danneskjold

9/25/17 9:26am

BYU Losing : G5 Alarmists :: Hurricane : Global warming alarmists

Sandstone Cougar

9/25/17 9:27am

But global warming is a verifiable fact... Like 100% so

Dissenter

9/25/17 2:24pm

It's a step down in perception. Major Independent vs. G5.

9/25/17 9:28am

Last week TH said that there will be a time

Everyman

9/25/17 9:37am

The time that byu can no longer compete with the p5 is 2011.

Backcountry

9/25/17 9:39am

what kind of bull crap is this? BYU competes with P5 RIGHT NOW

Dissenter

9/25/17 2:25pm

Check our record since going indy.

Backcountry

9/25/17 2:45pm

pretty dang close to .500. That's competing

Dissenter

9/25/17 4:55pm

That statement was about money. And he's right.

9/25/17 9:42am

Ny6 access, conference championship race

Backcountry

9/25/17 10:34am

I would guess, and assume, that if BYU went back to a G5 they would be keeping

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 1:19pm

AAC won't allow it

Bobmarleyjr

9/25/17 2:16pm

Do you know this for sure? I sure don't. Yes it is an assumption, but

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 2:23pm

We don't know if they would but we know they didn't & don't plan on it

Bobmarleyjr

9/25/17 2:28pm

Again you don't know this as this scenario has never come up, to this point.

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 2:29pm

Only when Aresco invited BSU & told them they couldn't do it & probably

Bobmarleyjr

9/25/17 2:42pm

No. 100% shot down by the aac commissioner on criddles show

Backcountry

9/25/17 2:47pm

We will know more about how sustainably Indy is when the ESPN contract ends

Cougar Geek

9/25/17 9:52am

BYU/ESPN is extended though 2020

SJS

9/25/17 9:54am

Even Notre Dame makes substantially less media money than the P5

boscatar

9/25/17 10:09am

Eventually BYU has to actually beat a few P5 teams to stay in the perceived

TeeKaa

9/25/17 10:50am

Yes. Since independence, BYU is 2-15

Everyman

9/25/17 10:59am

What's our record against any FBS winning teams in that same stretch (incl. G5)?

boscatar

9/25/17 11:06am

12-8

Everyman

9/25/17 11:22am

That's not how this wirks. I get that Utes and downtrodden BYU

9/25/17 11:56am

Huge national headlines that lead to what exactly?

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 1:21pm

Fair enough. But then, how does one judge the program?

Everyman

9/25/17 1:29pm

Our schedules are tough enough that our end of season record and national ranking (if applicable) are

9/25/17 1:33pm

By W/L and rankings. That is how all programs are judged.

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 1:40pm

Out of curiosity, how many teams that we beat would have had winning seasons

cougaman

9/25/17 1:28pm

Major independent?

Cougtruth

9/25/17 12:01pm

Ask the media:

9/25/17 12:54pm

The Media?

Cougtruth

9/25/17 1:33pm

ESPN chose BYU-#10 Wisconsin over CSU-#1 Alabama, Tulane-#2Oklahoma

boscatar

9/25/17 2:33pm

Yep, they thought we were the most likely matchup to not be a blow out.

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 2:37pm

Maybe they thought that after being humiliated we would make a game of it.

Cougtruth

9/25/17 3:18pm

And it went in one ear and out the other. Great points, but the jaded few

PhilPete

9/25/17 9:35am

G5, Indy, it doesn't matter. BYU athletics are on life support.

Backcountry

9/25/17 9:37am

What about Boise, Houston, etc. then? They

9/25/17 9:43am

They aren't in a great position, but ours is worse.

Backcountry

9/25/17 10:43am

Look at the budgets. BYU is in better financial shape. We also have

9/25/17 12:58pm

Right now they would. In 20 years that won't be the case.

Backcountry

9/25/17 1:14pm

Well, that could be. One way to help that along would be for BYU to drop down to Boise's income level

9/25/17 1:17pm

What would be beneficial for BYU to do is start winning again. One thing Indy

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 1:27pm

I agree with this: Winning would solve a lot of problems.

9/25/17 1:31pm

In reality BYU's problems have litle to do with conference affiliation and every

Backcountry

9/25/17 1:29pm

Both options suck so why get so worked up either way?

sgriff

9/25/17 9:47am

No one would be complaining about independence if we were competitive

boscatar

9/25/17 10:02am

They need to water down the future schedules no front loaded with strong P5's

franklyvulgar

9/25/17 10:29am

I wonder what percentage of ND fans want to join a conference? granted it would

Mayor of Cougartown

9/25/17 10:04am

Notre Dame has a tremendous football tradition. 27 national championships

cowhide

9/25/17 10:54am

yes I get all this,Everyone does. the contract is with NBC (has been for decades

Mayor of Cougartown

9/25/17 11:22am

Notre Dame - NBC tv contract

Cougtruth

9/25/17 12:07pm

In addition

Cougtruth

9/25/17 1:05pm

our first year as Indy our recruiting was 66 and has been the same

franklyvulgar

9/25/17 11:30am

If everybody were on the same page there’d be nothing to discuss.

canofpicante

9/25/17 5:59pm

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