People spent a bit of money to live in Draper, not West Valley. If they wanted to live near homeless shelters they

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Mar 28, 2017
3:36:51pm

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wouldn't have moved to Draper. Now they are victims of a bait and switch.

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Ragnar Danneskjold

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Draper proposes two spots for homeless shelters. #1 Where prison is now and and #2 Southeast of i-15 off 146000 south.

RdF3 All-American

3/28/17 2:21pm

I think my brother just bought a town home in that area

BYU Fan

3/28/17 2:25pm

East of 14600 south? You mean the east side of the freeway?

The Dude Abides

3/28/17 2:25pm

I'm not sure the SL valley can support much more residential growth anyway.

OPINIONS

3/28/17 2:27pm

when I fly in SLC I say "wow.... there is so much dirt here" ... Even on the East side there is all kinds

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 2:34pm

Not sure there is enough water though. Land shouldn't be the only consideration.

OPINIONS

3/28/17 2:48pm

Plenty of water in Utah and even more ways to innovate and lower the amount of wasted water in Ut. If the price got

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 3:10pm

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Buffalo

3/28/17 4:03pm

Agreed

whatchamacallit

3/28/17 2:32pm

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RdF3

3/28/17 2:33pm

Why not get them a one-way greyhound ticket to NYC instead. Let those under-privileged do some traveling and save

Thunder Buddy

3/28/17 2:33pm

Yes, send them to the coasts who all seem so willing to give away everyone

Big Daddy D

3/28/17 2:36pm

Since this will never happen, I actually think Draper is a great location. Let's not pretend that a homeless shelter is

Thunder Buddy

3/28/17 2:43pm

You want to build your big new corporate building right next to the homeless shelter?

RdF3

3/28/17 2:46pm

Have you ever been to San Francisco? The homeless epidemic there hasn't slowed growth. Grow up, people!

Thunder Buddy

3/28/17 2:49pm

Which was there first?

RdF3

3/28/17 2:51pm

Which was in SF first, homeless people or Facebook? I'll let you figure that out.

Thunder Buddy

3/28/17 2:53pm

Ah, the ol mocking passive aggressive smiley trick. 2 options for a homeless shelter:

RdF3

3/28/17 2:58pm

I apologize if that came across as passive aggressive, that was not my intent.

Thunder Buddy

3/28/17 3:05pm

Well I guess I'm just a horrible jaded person after having homeless family members

RdF3

3/28/17 3:34pm

As long as you don't mind stepping over addicts laying on the floor and their

rmsenior

3/28/17 3:14pm

Years ago AZ did that .. sent them to Utah

Bucko

3/29/17 8:48am

The topography of Utah was God's way of telling you guys to start spreading out

Indy Coug

3/28/17 2:33pm

Its not draper city. We wouldnt even let a DI be built in our city. Its the

monkeycowboy

3/28/17 2:41pm

Whatever. Draper has a Savers.

Ragnar Danneskjold

3/28/17 2:51pm

Its because the town is putting in that high density housing, ruining our fair

monkeycowboy

3/28/17 2:56pm

I've been to a city council meeting when they were looking at rezoning a plot of land in our neighborhood.

Ragnar Danneskjold

3/28/17 3:07pm

Draper City is seriously corrupt. None of their decisions make sense otherwise.

SD-Y-FAN

3/28/17 8:35pm

I think you overestimate the decline in property values/standard of living that a homeless shelter will cause in an

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 2:41pm

Maybe I am. Why was there such an effort to move the prison from there though?

RdF3

3/28/17 2:43pm

It's old & needs to be rebuilt, and that land is worth a fortune.

cougarmeister

3/28/17 2:54pm

Exactly. But instead we're going to start out putting a big homeless shelter right there in place of it.

RdF3

3/28/17 2:55pm

I think moving the prison is a terrible idea. The land isn't worth enough to compensate for the cost of moving the

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 3:19pm

The thing is, these areas aren't even anywhere near where Draper residents live. I agree with you partly.

RdF3

3/28/17 3:20pm

My developer friends think it is the single most valuable piece of real estate

Nat Gas Man

3/28/17 3:35pm

the dirt is worth about $300MM. The cost to move the prison is about $600MM. It's not a good deal yet. Maybe in

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 3:45pm

the problem is they likely have to spend more than $300M to upgrade the prison

Nat Gas Man

3/28/17 3:49pm

I don't believe that number is accurate. That number is a made up number used to confuse (ie... it's a lie).

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 3:53pm

Whatever the number....before it is all said and done, I'd bet money it will

Nat Gas Man

3/28/17 3:58pm

People spent a bit of money to live in Draper, not West Valley. If they wanted to live near homeless shelters they

Ragnar Danneskjold

3/28/17 3:36pm

I bought in Draper. I want homeless shelters closer to my property. You speak for yourself not for me.

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 3:46pm

The city turned down a DI a few years ago, im pretty sure he speaks for more

monkeycowboy

3/28/17 3:50pm

I understand that he speaks for the majority. It makes me sad. The downside of a homeless shelter is being grossly

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 3:55pm

My home is near a trax station in draper. Since it has been put in, there has

monkeycowboy

3/28/17 4:05pm

Evidence is clear that concentrating large number of homeless people in one area is terrible social policy. Condensing

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 9:19pm

If this were true, you wouldn't have bought a home in Draper.

RdF3

3/28/17 3:58pm

as a person who has lived across the street from a homeless shelter I find myself distinctly qualified to say that I

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 4:07pm

I work with the homeless. The shelters are every bit as bid as people say.

SD-Y-FAN

3/28/17 8:41pm

what about single moms? Wouldn't we be better off putting single moms near 123rd? They would be within walking

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 9:23pm

Show up to draper city council tomorrow where they're voting on it and voice your opinion about why that would be a good

RdF3

3/28/17 9:26pm

I'm in NYC right now, but even if I were in Draper I wouldn't go to the meeting. That City council isn't interested in

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 9:31pm

note that my neighbor just sent an email asking us all to go fight against the shelter. He sent a link

HarlemCoug

3/28/17 10:33pm

It won't be single moms, because Midvale won't let that happen.

SD-Y-FAN

3/29/17 9:59am

I don't understand. People with money live in Draper because of the good sense of community and better schools. They

HarlemCoug

3/29/17 10:04am

Most homeless families require services several times per week. Between drug

SD-Y-FAN

3/29/17 10:44am

thanks for taking the time to write a detailed response. In NYC homeless shelters often house people for a year or

HarlemCoug

3/29/17 10:56am

Utah's homeless shelters are not that organized. You can stay in the homeless

SD-Y-FAN

3/29/17 11:17am

Also appreciate the response.

whatchamacallit

3/29/17 11:19am

RE: I think you overestimate the decline in property values/standard of living

85fan

3/29/17 9:44pm

Because it wasn't a big deal I never really dived into the details. I just looked it up online and they didn't provide

HarlemCoug

3/30/17 4:17am

Stop sticking them in West Valley. Draper needs to take their turn.

Galileo5

3/28/17 3:05pm

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