I don't want to be independent. Treat BYU like a P5 (coaching, funding, expectations), and BYU might actually perform

Jan 10, 2018
12:18:35pm

Ragnar Danneskjold $4M #neverforget

at a level desirable enough that a P5 might actually make an invite.

If we treat BYU like a G5, we don't have a chance of success.

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Ragnar Danneskjold

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Cougar Club seems like a futile effort. The church doesn't put BYU sports as a priority. If they can give $4,000,000

Ragnar Danneskjold $4M #neverforget

1/10/18 11:40am

You think athletics is on welfare? How much revenue do expect?

Tokolosh

1/10/18 11:41am

Not revenue. If BYU wants to be a P5, the church needs to subsidize it so the funding is equal to a successful P5.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 11:44am

That will never happen. Thus your statement

TNT

1/10/18 11:44am

Church subsidies would be counted in revenue. What total amount of revenue

Tokolosh

1/10/18 11:45am

To compensate for HC, probably Alabama levels.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 11:48am

Why does "the church" have the responibility of funding it. If the fans want it

Lance71

1/10/18 11:59am

It's a church-owned school. Just like the state funds the state universities.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 12:14pm

The Church is getting everything they want out of it for their money.

Lance71

1/10/18 12:33pm

I could make BYU football mediocre for 1/2 the money.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 2:18pm

For 1/2 the money BYU sports doesn't exist. So you couldn't do that.

Lance71

1/10/18 5:15pm

Sure it does. We make coaching a local ward calling. Transportation is the EQ. Food is RS. Uniform can be done by

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/11/18 9:26am

Again for the 500th time that may not go to athletics

TNT

1/10/18 1:07pm

Do any states subsidize athletics?

Colorado

1/10/18 1:30pm

There are only about a dozen FBS schools that do not subsidize athletics

CougarVeteran

1/10/18 7:29pm

Waste of taxpayer dollars

Colorado

1/10/18 10:08pm

Utah athletics gets welfare from the state, right?

Sid Vicious

1/10/18 11:46am

Yes

jkccoug

1/10/18 3:02pm

The state doesn't have any money

Cougrrrs Roll

1/10/18 4:31pm

No. You are right

TNT

1/10/18 11:44am

If you gave BYU $100M for athletics, what difference would it ultimately make?

Indy Coug

1/10/18 11:44am

Like I said, it needs to be a priority. The best coaches they can get. Salaries that match successful P5 salaries.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 11:46am

You make it seem like it's a money issue. It isn't. It's an institutional issue

Indy Coug

1/10/18 11:47am

Yes, it is an institutional issue. Pay $$$ for the best coaches, facilities, socks, and the best LDS players will come.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 11:51am

imagine this... imagine that there are LDS athletes who DON'T want to go to BYU

Dissenter

1/10/18 12:01pm

True. But I'm sure you get my point.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 12:15pm

Nope, it won't happen

Indy Coug

1/10/18 12:07pm

I don't want to be independent. Treat BYU like a P5 (coaching, funding, expectations), and BYU might actually perform

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 12:18pm

I tend to agree. More money would make only a marginal difference.

dreamlvr

1/10/18 12:40pm

Does paying Sitake more make him more successful?

Tokolosh

1/10/18 11:48am

You throw a $10M salary at ANY LDS coach and they'd most likely do it.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 11:50am

What programs besides a blue-blood or two is paying $10mm

Tokolosh

1/10/18 11:51am

I'm making up numbers. But let's say Reid. If BYU wanted Reid, matched his current salary + 10%, I bet he'd come.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 11:57am

A better ventilation system in the players lounge so the fire department doesn't

byubyu

1/10/18 11:46am

With the new stipend rules I suspect all of the atheltic scholarship trusts need to be funded again.

HuskerFan2

1/10/18 12:35pm

That’s why I suggested that, if I had the money I would

jkccoug

1/10/18 3:04pm

This is a good point. You'd have to give them $100m every year for ten years to expect any real change.

BlueFever

1/10/18 4:49pm

If I had $100 Million to give BYU, I'd probably see if I could buy off the Big12

UberDeek

1/10/18 11:22pm

Agreed. It's a very different thing at byu. Sports

johnnycarson

1/10/18 11:44am

Given the abysmal participation in the CC, maybe the 'Church' doesn't think that

a priori

1/10/18 11:48am

The church should be selling the product to us. Not the other way around.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 11:58am

Take 10% of the income of all non-SEC fans and you'll see some drop in

cougfanz

1/10/18 12:16pm

Yeah but...

HighHorse

1/10/18 12:39pm

What's this about the $4m?

Plato

1/10/18 12:54pm

Read at your own peril. Don't blame me if you go inactive. This is John Dehlin territory.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 2:14pm

Maybe the church cares more about salvation and society than sports.

mudpupper

1/10/18 1:47pm

Let's just save some $, join the Pioneer Conference with the University of San Diego. We can be mediocre there.

Ragnar Danneskjold

1/10/18 2:16pm

Gotta love CB: half the fans brag that BYU

panguitch

1/11/18 1:10pm

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