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Oct 16, 2019
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donnerstag
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Yep. It reminds me of the time when BYU was 2-1
beating 2 P5 teams and then lost QB1 and RB1 to injuries.
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How has BYU's football program fallen so far?
Borg
10/16/19 7:19am
That story is about 30 years long
franklyvulgar
10/16/19 7:23am
The program is roughly in the same state as when Bronco left
donnerstag
10/16/19 7:24am
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Cougazul
10/16/19 7:26am
What if BYU had made one more play against USF and Toledo?
donnerstag
10/16/19 7:29am
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Cougazul
10/16/19 7:34am
As a reminder, BYU lost to 5 G5 opponents in 2014
donnerstag
10/16/19 7:37am
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Cougazul
10/16/19 7:40am
You say that losing to 2 G5 opponents at the last minute is a good barometer for
donnerstag
10/16/19 7:43am
Here’s the issue:
ataylor
10/16/19 7:45am
It's a fair point about 2017, otherwise you're pointing to 2 seasons
donnerstag
10/16/19 7:49am
It’s a fair point overall. The numbers don’t lie.
ataylor
10/16/19 7:50am
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Cougazul
10/16/19 7:49am
Neither USU nor UCF was ranked
donnerstag
10/16/19 7:54am
They were 10-4 and 9-4 though. Definitely not as bad as USF is this year. The
Dynasty1
10/16/19 7:58am
Toledo could very well end up with 9 or 10 wins
donnerstag
10/16/19 8:00am
Not really, before Kalani it was EXTREMELY rare that we'd lose to a G5 team with
Dynasty1
10/16/19 8:02am
Did you mean a few times one year?
Blue Cat
10/16/19 8:21am
Toledo lost to a 1-4 Bowling Green.
RSL
10/16/19 8:26am
Except they lost to bowling green, Toledo might be lucky to go bowling
BYU313
10/16/19 9:26am
They lost to a rival, on the road, with their QB knocked out.
Blue Cat
10/16/19 9:38am
True, but it does prove they aren't all they were hyped to be
BYU313
10/16/19 12:31pm
ESPN FPI still has them as an 8-9 win team.
Blue Cat
10/16/19 2:33pm
We will see. If they end up having a good season
BYU313
10/16/19 3:25pm
Their QB was knocked out in the 3rd quarter after they were already down 20-7
Mr Bassman
10/16/19 12:40pm
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Cougazul
10/16/19 8:00am
The worst loss was Utah State in 2010
donnerstag
10/16/19 8:05am
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Cougazul
10/16/19 8:11am
Those were the really bad losses
donnerstag
10/16/19 9:49am
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Cougazul
10/16/19 10:26am
I consider the 54-10 loss to Utah in 2011 a bad loss
donnerstag
10/16/19 10:44am
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Cougazul
10/16/19 10:55am
The only issues with your conclusion are that you're including
donnerstag
10/16/19 10:59am
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Cougazul
10/16/19 11:04am
Success in CFB is all about coaching. So saying that "other than coaching things
Dynasty1
10/16/19 11:05am
You're just making up expectations
donnerstag
10/16/19 11:15am
outside of Utah State, what bad teams did the 2010 team lose to?
Mr Bassman
10/16/19 12:49pm
so Sagarin is a bad indicator of whether a team is good?
Mr Bassman
10/16/19 12:44pm
My point is there were no bad losses in 2016
donnerstag
10/16/19 12:48pm
2016 we only won 9 games
Mr Bassman
10/16/19 12:54pm
All five of which were bowl teams with a combined record of 48-19
BeardedSpock
10/16/19 8:39am
All 5 schools have less revenue and resources than BYU
donnerstag
10/16/19 9:45am
and was 3-0 vs P5 teams while averaging over 40 points per game. It was a
Gorum the Old
10/16/19 9:13am
Yep. It reminds me of the time when BYU was 2-1
donnerstag
10/16/19 9:46am
What if BYU had not made 1 last play against TN or USC?
TailgateU
10/17/19 8:17am
Touche
Prickly Heat
10/16/19 9:50am
I’d put USf and Toledo in the easy team category maybe Tennessee as well
franklyvulgar
10/16/19 7:27am
Only after the season, we'll know if those were bad losses
donnerstag
10/16/19 7:35am
Toledo is always a bad loss
DapperDan
10/16/19 7:46am
We've lost to them before
CougarBuddy
10/16/19 8:01am
I'm wrong, I was thinking Tulsa. Have we played Toledo before?
CougarBuddy
10/16/19 8:06am
Any of the "tool" schools is a bad loss. Toledo, tulane, tulsa...
cougaman
10/16/19 9:36am
No that was our first time. We've only played them twice though. Beat them in
Dynasty1
10/16/19 8:08am
Thx. For some reason I've been thinking they...
CougarBuddy
10/16/19 9:32am
well the defense got beat pretty bad in 2007
Mr Bassman
10/16/19 1:01pm
not according to Mr. Criddle
Mr Bassman
10/16/19 12:55pm
"IF" Bronco would have had one of Sitake's 2 bowl opponents
kooogar
10/16/19 7:52am
In these uncertain times, it's nice to know that you can rely on donnerstag
BeardedSpock
10/16/19 8:35am
Back to using ad hominem arguments I see
donnerstag
10/16/19 9:47am
Kalani is your third cousin, right?
Ash
10/16/19 1:20pm
They have to be related somehow all the excuses he gives Sitake
cougaman
10/16/19 1:24pm
What if... BYU could be 0-6 right now. Im convinced you are related to Sitake
cougaman
10/16/19 8:46am
Yeah right. 2015 Boise State would beat 2019 BYU by 30+
andrewg3
10/16/19 9:39am
So, Utah and Washington didn't beat us by 30
Blue Cat
10/16/19 9:49am
Oh right, I forgot about our "Bend but don't break defense." So we would hold
andrewg3
10/16/19 11:16am
Answer:
ataylor
10/16/19 7:30am
It hasn't, but perception is often reality
2FarGone
10/16/19 7:36am
I blame Chad Bunn.
Hambone
10/16/19 7:37am
whatever happened to Mr. Bunn?
TwoHourBlock
10/16/19 8:17am
Self imposed limitations & the increased arms race of College football in which BYU isnt willing to keep up.
monkeycowboy
10/16/19 7:37am
We thought we had a power program, but really we had an all-time coach who caught fire for about 15 years (77-91)..
SpiffCoug
10/16/19 7:55am
This is the real answer.
Elwood Blues
10/16/19 1:29pm
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