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Jan 29, 2020
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TailgateU
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And the more we schedule them, the more losses we'll accrue and the worse we get
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More BYU vs Stanford
Indy Coug
Loquacious Lummox
1/29/20 10:34am
Looks at the fine print, remembers Notre Dame.
AD4
1/29/20 10:35am
Agreed. The games at BYU being after the games at Stanford scares me.
SG Blue
1/29/20 10:37am
Now they sign with us and espn, I don’t thing they are going to pass on
travelcoug
1/29/20 11:59am
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East1999
1/29/20 10:38am
Well there ya go. This will be a 4-2
Backcountry
1/29/20 10:46am
Or a 4-1
yakkamole
1/29/20 11:20am
Another Holmoe fail
Backcountry
1/29/20 11:40am
RE: Another Holmoe fail
WHO DEY
1/29/20 1:22pm
I saw a 5 for BYU 4 four Stanford
travelcoug
1/29/20 12:00pm
Do you think that an open ended contract with notre dame without an espn
travelcoug
1/29/20 12:03pm
Notre Dame is also a weird situation because BYU and Notre Dame reportedly
Scratch
1/29/20 12:17pm
If I’m not mistaken, the Notre Dame series
travelcoug
1/29/20 5:01pm
The Notre Dame series was announced after BYU announced it was going Indy and on
Scratch
1/29/20 5:09pm
Hopefully the lawyers have learned from the ND debacle.
Dangerous
1/29/20 10:40am
BYU needed the momentum from ND series.
Big Time 55
1/29/20 10:45am
What do you mean? I’m not aware that the ND series played a role with going Indy
Pierre Delecto
1/29/20 1:34pm
Obviously they didn't go indy because they got the contract.
Big Time 55
1/29/20 8:16pm
Looks to me like 5 at Stanford, 1 in Provo. Then the stalling begins.
TailgateU
1/29/20 11:40am
yea I am sure Stanford is scared to come to Provo..like Washington was. Geez
Swishfromdeep3
1/29/20 12:12pm
What are the chances we get 3 straight games in Provo 🧐
Pretorian
1/29/20 1:20pm
ND status is the same as Stanford will be...
TailgateU
1/30/20 9:07am
That’s where my money is
Pretorian
1/30/20 10:48am
Yeah... Looks very suspicious to me..too front loaded away
Borg
1/29/20 12:01pm
Stanford's attendance has been awful. Playing BYU should help with that.
Dangerous
1/29/20 10:36am
After having been to a few Stanford football games over the last few seasons,
YoungOne
1/29/20 12:21pm
Two of the added games are in November.
Dangerous
1/29/20 10:36am
Excellent, I guess the boycotting of BYU is truly in the past.
BYU71
1/29/20 10:37am
Don't be too sure
TNT
1/29/20 10:38am
Yep, that is why I used the word "maybe".
BYU71
1/29/20 10:39am
Notice they aren't playing in Provo. Expect those to cancel.
Archaea
1/29/20 10:39am
Stanford won't be canceling season openers with enormous buyouts. Settle down.
mulletino
1/29/20 10:40am
Stanford can afford anything but I see your point IFF the buyouts are large
Archaea
1/29/20 10:44am
Honestly though, who knows what college football will like in 5 years with
BYUheaven
1/29/20 10:44am
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East1999
1/29/20 11:08am
Link to no buyout fees? Common sense.
mulletino
1/29/20 11:18am
Yep. There will be big buyout fees for both teams. The exception being
LiveCoug
1/29/20 11:22am
Buyouts for FBS games are pretty standard, generally between 1-1.5M per game.
Scratch
1/29/20 11:28am
BYU has no pressure to sign these games 5+ years out, that pinch we were in is
Pretorian
1/29/20 1:26pm
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East1999
1/29/20 11:33am
No, just common sense. LiveCoug alluded to what led me to this common sense.
mulletino
1/29/20 11:38am
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East1999
1/29/20 11:41am
Possible. Very improbable. Not sure why they'd vary from standard contract language especially
mulletino
1/29/20 11:45am
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East1999
1/29/20 12:16pm
How do you know ND hasn't paid?
Lance71
1/29/20 1:17pm
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East1999
1/29/20 1:22pm
Common sense extrapolated from every contract that has been made public.
mulletino
1/29/20 1:58pm
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East1999
1/29/20 2:07pm
Wat?
mulletino
1/29/20 2:10pm
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East1999
1/29/20 2:38pm
One typically uses reason based on past experience and (in)consistencies. I'll stick with my gut on this one.
mulletino
1/29/20 2:46pm
Did ND ever pay its buyout fees? BYU often negotiates crappy contracts.
Archaea
1/29/20 2:17pm
No idea.
mulletino
1/29/20 2:20pm
My suspicion is, if ND had paid, we'd know, so we should assume, BYU
Archaea
1/29/20 2:47pm
That's my assumption as well but didn't want to draw a logical conclusion and have East1999 burn my house down.
mulletino
1/29/20 3:09pm
BYU and The Church have always been really strict about sticking to contracts.
Lance71
1/29/20 3:11pm
BYU doesn't owe ND anything. It's the other way around.
mulletino
1/29/20 3:13pm
*If this is true than no, ND has not paid BYU anything whatsoever...
Zach Morris
2/4/20 1:19pm
A potential 4 for 1 series
kmcougar
1/29/20 10:46am
Stanford doesn't have the money to do that.
kccougar
1/29/20 1:52pm
Yes they do. They have an endowment of at least $500 million just for athletics.
Blue Cat
1/29/20 2:15pm
I don’t trust the heavy back end deals with p5s
cougfanz
1/29/20 10:42am
What could go wrong?
Big Time 55
1/29/20 11:07am
Doubt it is. pR move by BYU but obviously very unlikely
cougfanz
1/29/20 11:44am
I wish Holmoe would only schedule 1 away before 1 home is agreed to, etc.
Hinta
1/29/20 10:42am
Ugh... Independence. Who schedules these crappy games?
Ned Schneebly
1/29/20 10:42am
Teams are starting to see BYU as an easy win.
Big Time 55
1/29/20 10:44am
Yep, just ask USC, Tennessee, and Wisconsin.
Dangerous
1/29/20 10:45am
And then look at our loses over the same seasons.
Big Time 55
1/29/20 10:46am
Agree, however it is the G5 losses that are hurting the program right now.
Dangerous
1/29/20 11:02am
We win about 50% versus *non-Utah* P5 since independence.
Doogal McCougar
1/29/20 1:13pm
And the more we schedule them, the more losses we'll accrue and the worse we get
TailgateU
1/29/20 11:42am
* MAC teams
The Chelsea Dagger
1/29/20 1:36pm
I'll be almost 75 in 2035.
Blue Heart
1/29/20 10:45am
so.. you're going then?
Saxa
1/29/20 11:01am
Are the games in the afternoon?
AZcougLawyer
1/29/20 1:09pm
Geeze. Thats cool
Backcountry
1/29/20 10:46am
Yeah, four out of the first five at Stanford is garbage
Coop
1/29/20 11:04am
Impossible, PAC12 doesn't allow OOC games in November.
rggee
1/29/20 11:05am
Didn't we play the Utes in November in 2018? I guess OOC games in Nov are OK
Go_Trojans
1/29/20 11:30am
The P12 allows them when needed to balance out schedules caused by USC and
Scratch
1/29/20 11:35am
ND has finished *every* season in CA v. Stanford or USC since 1999
Doogal McCougar
1/29/20 1:29pm
uummm Stanford has ended the year against Notre Dame many times
Swishfromdeep3
1/29/20 12:14pm
RE: uummm Stanford has ended the year against Notre Dame many times
rggee
1/29/20 12:18pm
Last 3 in Provo probably in case BYU is left behind/dropped a division or drops football completely
TEXAS
1/29/20 11:32am
I really don’t care a whole lot about 2035 in 2020.
HoustonBlueCougar
1/29/20 12:27pm
What did Tom Holmoe learn from the Notre Dame fiasco? Nothing?
COACHdrn
1/29/20 12:39pm
He'll be retired before Stanford cancels. That's probably in the contract.
frontrowcougar
1/29/20 12:40pm
Love it. We finish the season at Stanford or USC from '20-'23, '26, '28
Doogal McCougar
1/29/20 1:19pm
Looks like Holmoe didn't learn
Huge Manatee
1/29/20 1:38pm
This contract sucks. Thanks Teflon Tom. 4-1 is a terrible deal. There is no
OlanchoCoug
1/29/20 1:40pm
JEFE! WE NEED THAT EYE ROLL EMOJI!
LiveCoug
1/29/20 1:55pm
Are you excited about a 4-1? We won't get those last 3 home games without
OlanchoCoug
1/29/20 1:59pm
Lol. That is just straight up pessimism from you.
LiveCoug
1/29/20 2:01pm
Nah, it's realism. Do you honestly believe any P5 program would sit down and
OlanchoCoug
1/29/20 2:03pm
Perhaps we focus too much on whether BYU is P5 or not...and overlook
Doogal McCougar
1/29/20 2:05pm
I'm not talking about BYU not being P5. I'm saying stanford won't come to our
OlanchoCoug
1/29/20 2:12pm
Again, perhaps we focus too much on whether BYU is P5
Doogal McCougar
1/29/20 2:13pm
Again, I didn't mention that at all
OlanchoCoug
1/29/20 2:14pm
Way too many people confuse pessimism with realism.
LiveCoug
1/29/20 2:13pm
I don't buy this. Most of BYU's H-H contracts have had the Provo game last.
Scratch
1/29/20 2:06pm
A home and home starting at the other team's stadium isn't concerning. A deal
OlanchoCoug
1/29/20 2:10pm
Again, besides your pessimism, there is no precedent that that's going to
LiveCoug
1/29/20 2:26pm
Lol, whatever dude. We've seen Holmoe sign plenty of questionable to bad deals.
OlanchoCoug
1/29/20 2:38pm
RE: Lol, whatever dude. We've seen Holmoe sign plenty of questionable to bad
LiveCoug
1/29/20 2:44pm
How is the Arizona deal garbage? That is a GREAT deal for BYU's fans.
Doogal McCougar
1/29/20 3:07pm
It's a lopsided deal.. arizona gets more home games, and this more money from
OlanchoCoug
1/29/20 3:11pm
BYU got lots of $$ from the game in Phoenix. Will get $$ from Las Vegas game
Doogal McCougar
1/29/20 3:39pm
Wrong. Both are lopsided against us.
OlanchoCoug
1/29/20 3:41pm
Since you seem to be focused on attendance BYU will double Arizona fans in Vegas
Lance71
1/29/20 5:05pm
I'm excited for 4 BYU v. Stanford games over Thanksgiving weekend
Doogal McCougar
1/29/20 2:03pm
We would have very exciting names on our schedule every week if we agreed
OlanchoCoug
1/29/20 2:07pm
We have quality future schedules. BYU v. Stanford games in November are good.
Doogal McCougar
1/29/20 2:18pm
We've actually agreed to play 4 away and 4 at home. That's the agreement
LiveCoug
1/29/20 2:27pm
I'm sure Holmoe got what he could get. it's like Reagan said: If you can't get
gingi
1/29/20 2:07pm
He's giving up 4 loaves to get 1 and maybe get a few in the future.
OlanchoCoug
1/29/20 2:08pm
You don't 'give up' what you can't get. He took the slices he could get and is
gingi
1/29/20 4:00pm
Will I still be alive in 2035? Geesh that's a long ways away.
Boomcannon
1/29/20 2:07pm
What a strage reaction by CB. 4 for 4 series with several of the games in
Lance71
1/29/20 3:20pm
P5 comparison and too much focus on Notre Dame scenario.
Doogal McCougar
1/29/20 3:41pm
SMOKE!!!
BYUALWAYSNUM1
1/29/20 4:09pm
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