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Mar 30, 2020
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ochobeeguy
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He's not saying it's the flu, he's saying the flu is worse.
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2018 flu season: 900,000 hospitalizations. 80,000 deaths.
Harbinger
3/30/20 10:02pm
The difference is we have antibodies for the flu.
VACOUGFAN
3/30/20 10:05pm
I am not on any side here, but honestly curious. If we have antibodies for the flu, why do 80,000 still die?
RoaroftheCougartails
3/30/20 10:15pm
And millions extremely sick.
777
3/30/20 10:20pm
Anti-vaxxers, for one.
BYUBandfan
3/30/20 10:42pm
Because apparently those lives aren't worth saving.
Kerbouchard
3/30/20 11:06pm
That is some really poor reasoning. I guess it is par for the course.
kimdaddy35
3/30/20 11:42pm
They don't take the flu serious, and wash their hands enough and...
So it goes...
3/31/20 12:29am
Real answer- the flu shot covers what the believe will be the most prevalent
SouthernBlueBlood
3/31/20 4:33am
I thought all lives were of equal value? Apparently not. People are fine with
Kerbouchard
3/30/20 11:05pm
Yes, a death is a death. But 100 deaths is not 1 death. Every single person with
Scratch
3/30/20 11:19pm
Drastic measures for how long? Where? By what criteria?
Kerbouchard
3/30/20 11:26pm
I’m not saying all of the measures are necessary, and I believe some are
Scratch
3/30/20 11:39pm
The flu varies each year which is why a flu shot is developed and administered.
PortlandBlue
3/31/20 3:35am
So that makes 900k hospitalizations easy enough for the system to handle?
Harbinger
3/31/20 6:41am
Do those 900k hospitalizations all require ventilators?
VACOUGFAN
3/31/20 7:01am
We haven't and won't have 900k hospitalizations in 6 weeks and not even
Harbinger
3/31/20 8:41am
These posts are getting old.
kimdaddy35
3/30/20 10:05pm
So is the shutdown.
Superman21
3/30/20 10:18pm
Facts are pesky things.
Samsonite
3/30/20 10:25pm
RE: Facts are pesky things.
coolcats
3/31/20 6:23am
Not at all. Politicians trying to one up each other, making policies that
Kerbouchard
3/30/20 11:08pm
Not based on data?
Scratch
3/30/20 11:19pm
wow. Makes me rethink my views since this hasn't been said 1,000 times this month
Clark Addison
3/30/20 10:06pm
Wow.
Blueto
3/30/20 10:07pm
Define "on pace" as it applies to current conditions.
Plato
3/30/20 10:10pm
We won't even get to 50,000 deaths.
Scott_Tenorman
3/30/20 10:40pm
I hope not. Are you rooting for more deaths to be "proven" right/wrong though?
VACOUGFAN
3/31/20 6:06am
Maybe, but the curve goes up and then comes down so daily deaths will begin
dazcoug
3/30/20 11:41pm
Try and understand exponential growth.
Taysom 4 Heisman
3/30/20 10:20pm
If it’s that simple then why don’t more people have the virus now?
Odysseus
3/30/20 10:41pm
Flu season started late October/early November.
cougfanblue
3/30/20 10:54pm
Sure. The flu isn’t a great comparison. But at 60+ days of “exponential growth”
Odysseus
3/31/20 6:07am
Number of new cases per day doubles about every 7 days.
cougfanblue
3/31/20 8:36am
My point is I’d like to see more nuance when it comes to platitudes like
Odysseus
3/31/20 10:16am
Well first case that they know of...
VACOUGFAN
3/31/20 6:07am
Is it like when I contribute $100 on my first paycheck and then
Superman21
3/30/20 11:01pm
Exponential growth is not present in your example
BYU_Hoops
3/31/20 2:56am
The flu grows exponentially too.
RugbyCoug
3/30/20 11:04pm
Not really.
Taysom 4 Heisman
3/31/20 9:29am
both are exponential. 1.00001 is exponential. But actually, more importantly,
RugbyCoug
3/31/20 11:26am
R0 of 1.3 won't grow exponentially when you factor in the recovery rate.
Taysom 4 Heisman
3/31/20 12:22pm
And surrender all constitutional freedom of movement in the meantime.
Kerbouchard
3/30/20 11:09pm
And from the CDC data, estimated 2803 died between ages 18-49 yrs
Run-DMT
3/30/20 10:39pm
T h i s i is n o t t h e f l u
So it goes...
3/30/20 10:59pm
So? Death is death. A life is a life.
Kerbouchard
3/30/20 11:10pm
When in your lifetime has the flu done what we've seen these past 3 months?
So it goes...
3/30/20 11:53pm
The past 3 months it has..actually. you get those are USA flu #'s not worldwid
CarolinaCoug
3/31/20 1:18am
Erase out of your brain the false information Fox was feeding you for over a...
So it goes...
3/31/20 12:02am
Heard it first on CNN from the NYC Mayor and Health Director. ALL media suck and have their agendas and bias!
Rhino84
3/31/20 7:00am
Nah ... you heard some conservative media
coolcats
3/31/20 7:27am
Nope. Saw it on CNN which I watch at lunchtime when they first said it several weeks ago.
Rhino84
3/31/20 10:51am
And CNN and NYT and Washington Post ...
CougarMandias
3/31/20 8:22am
Yes, it sounds like you do in fact need an intervention.
TheWoodman
3/31/20 9:57am
He's not saying it's the flu, he's saying the flu is worse.
ochobeeguy
3/30/20 11:55pm
900,000 hospitalizations. I don't care what sickness it is. How come the medical
Harbinger
3/31/20 6:39am
Why are you willfully being ignorant? Is it for attention?
BYU_Hoops
3/31/20 10:06am
So no answer? Just a personal attack. Surprising.
Harbinger
3/31/20 12:06pm
It’s not a personal attack. You’re making light of a serious issue and choosing
BYU_Hoops
3/31/20 12:30pm
Influenza has been a way of life for 100 years.
DrJazzy
3/31/20 10:10am
I guess that's one way to miss the point. How did you handle 900k
Harbinger
3/31/20 12:05pm
Wait. You really don’t get this?! Did all 900K (or whatever made up number
BYU_Hoops
3/31/20 12:31pm
900k won't happen in a month with covid. Nor do all cases require an icu.
Harbinger
3/31/20 12:40pm
Since you’re obviously a highly trained infectious disease doctor please get
BYU_Hoops
3/31/20 12:53pm
Yup we’re all crazy. NY hospitals, MI, hospitals, Louisiana hospitals
DrJazzy
3/31/20 3:37pm
Just curious, why don't you move patients to hospitals that aren't overcrowded?
Harbinger
3/31/20 7:53pm
To answer your question...
DrJazzy
3/31/20 11:30pm
Sorry to clarify one point...
DrJazzy
3/31/20 11:40pm
Hospitals are meant to operate at or near capacity any point and time.
DrJazzy
3/31/20 3:38pm
So everyone else needs to become unemployed so you don't have to prepare to do
Harbinger
3/31/20 7:49pm
Nope - it’s definitely a balancing act.
DrJazzy
3/31/20 11:37pm
Those numbers were spread out over a season and didn’t lead to entire healthcare
DrJazzy
3/30/20 11:02pm
Great, that doesn't mean it's a choice between shutting everything down or do
Kerbouchard
3/30/20 11:11pm
The flu had Mitt Romney's PR Manager
kiyoshige
3/31/20 12:00am
Really interesting. Why has no one made this comparison before?
DomCasual
3/31/20 12:02am
How many times does it need repeating? Imaging taking that flu season but
Resurgens
3/31/20 12:34am
Yes, I do!
AzCugrFan
3/31/20 12:55am
You're mistaken sadly
Resurgens
3/31/20 8:44am
Well, THAT changed my mind!!
AzCugrFan
3/31/20 12:08pm
What do you need? There's a couple explanations out there
Resurgens
3/31/20 12:12pm
but your original question was if I thought our hospitals could deal with the
AzCugrFan
3/31/20 1:23pm
Wondering how you came to that conclusion?
Resurgens
3/31/20 3:28pm
Cdc 2018 flu season was 13 weeks long. 61000 deaths in 13 weeks,,900,000
CarolinaCoug
3/31/20 9:09pm
Couple thoughts
Resurgens
4/1/20 11:08am
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CarolinaCoug
3/31/20 1:56am
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