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May 16, 2020
2:41:20pm

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Abe Froman

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Tom Holmoe addresses War Beaver

the_byu_flash

5/16/20 2:27pm

Basically says "I'm a nice guy, don't criticize my job performance."

Harbinger

5/16/20 2:29pm

So is the proof you’re providing to back your claims.

Turnpike Lane

5/16/20 2:30pm

What claim did I make?

Harbinger

5/16/20 2:32pm

RE: What claim did I make?

Turnpike Lane

5/16/20 2:33pm

You disagree that it was Tom's job to get the deal done for P5 inclusion?

Harbinger

5/16/20 2:35pm

You go make a deal with the Patriots to play QB. If you can’t I blame you.

Turnpike Lane

5/16/20 3:05pm

Yep. That would be my failure. I don't have the tools to do the job

Harbinger

5/16/20 4:08pm

Unlike your skill level being your fault, there are issues outside of Tom

here's to hoping

5/17/20 12:48pm

Conference realignment has been decided by university presidents and their

ataylor

5/16/20 3:09pm

Maybe saying, 'You don't have all the facts so maybe I can enlighten you so that

ManicBlue

5/16/20 5:05pm

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Beetdiggercoug

5/17/20 3:32pm

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Abe Froman

5/16/20 2:33pm

Why doesn’t Tom actually address what War Beaver says?

Texas Hammer

5/16/20 2:35pm

Because he really didn't say anything intelligent.

Benfica1

5/16/20 9:49pm

As soon as the twitters see that TH will respond to posts like that...

NorthwestCoug

5/17/20 12:41am

Because athletic directors regularly go to eat with strangers from twitter

Backcountry

5/16/20 2:36pm

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Abe Froman

5/16/20 2:40pm

I know him about as well as any casual BYU athletics fan on the internet

Backcountry

5/16/20 2:45pm

RE: I know him about as well as any casual BYU athletics fan on the internet

Still Open

5/16/20 2:51pm

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Abe Froman

5/16/20 3:04pm

Do you two get together for tea and strumpets?

Backcountry

5/16/20 4:00pm

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Abe Froman

5/16/20 4:24pm

That would be a double HC violation.

Florwood

5/16/20 4:43pm

Strumpets are prostitutes. I hope that they're not getting together for that.

BYUlv

5/17/20 11:12am

Dumb and dumber reference

Backcountry

5/17/20 11:31am

Thanks for clarifying. It has been a long time since I watched that movie.

BYUlv

5/17/20 11:33am

But you're not a byu fan, you're a drama queen

GigantorCat

5/17/20 12:23pm

Who can turn down 20 tacos anyway? I'd eat them with the Ute AD.

ochobeeguy

5/16/20 4:07pm

Not really.

Texas Hammer

5/16/20 2:34pm

Epitomizes Holmoe. Great dude. The kind of guy we'd all like to know and be

Backcountry

5/16/20 2:35pm

I gotta imagine its easier to be an AD in a conference than an AD scheduling

darkcoug

5/16/20 2:38pm

Easy in the sense of expectations

vegas guey

5/16/20 2:45pm

Exactly right. Winning is not a metric that matters. Fielding choir boys and

Backcountry

5/16/20 2:46pm

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Abe Froman

5/16/20 2:41pm

RE: LOL

Backcountry

5/16/20 2:44pm

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Abe Froman

5/16/20 2:48pm

I was all ready to thumbs-up until you said easiest AD job in the country.

Ham

5/16/20 3:56pm

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Abe Froman

5/16/20 4:24pm

Filling an independent schedule is tough. Having zero expectations is cushy.

Backcountry

5/16/20 7:13pm

No expectations???

blue13

5/16/20 5:19pm

I like you, but you speak out of both sides of your mouth

idacoug

5/16/20 6:43pm

I get what youre saying. I feel like I have been just as frustrated with the

Backcountry

5/16/20 6:56pm

Nah, War Beaver is a bit of a delusional knuckle head on that entire thread.

che flaco

5/16/20 7:22pm

Not a good post. BYU AD job is one of the hardest in the country. Many would

BlooCoog

5/16/20 11:28pm

Easiest? CB is ridiculous.

Gentleman Stan

5/16/20 11:31pm

12 tacos, but only one drink? Eww... Are they going to share? Gross... Germs.

BYUtka

5/16/20 2:39pm

Maybe a dozen tacos and a drink each? Or only Tom eats? I dunno.

paulb

5/16/20 4:30pm

I'm trying to picture War Beaver....

DizzyDean

5/16/20 2:45pm

RE: I'm trying to picture War Beaver....

the_byu_flash

5/16/20 2:53pm

When Tom says they have a lot of common opinions Im sure he’s hinting

Idahofallsblue

5/16/20 2:57pm

Tom has never indicated that. Tom and his superiors are very content with the

Backcountry

5/16/20 2:59pm

Holmoe deserves criticism for his 2016 football hires more than any whining

ataylor

5/16/20 3:03pm

This is a fair take...the hiring of so many inexperienced coaches was not good

BlooCoog

5/16/20 4:23pm

In retrospect, yes, but many on this board who are now criticizing the hires

ManicBlue

5/16/20 5:10pm

I alluded to the coordinator hires in my post. I think if Sitake had hired

ataylor

5/16/20 5:21pm

RE: I alluded to the coordinator hires in my post. I think if Sitake had hired

ManicBlue

5/16/20 5:33pm

Yeah but it’s a legit dream job and should require results—in Football.

Dr MoBYU

5/16/20 5:47pm

Relative to where the program was when Holmoe took over in 2004, he has

ataylor

5/16/20 6:04pm

Agree.Also,He’s a smart man and must see the issues with FB.What’s his plan?IDK

Dr MoBYU

5/16/20 7:00pm

CB at its finest in threads like these. Most of these guys should be running

Uncle Bluto

5/16/20 3:10pm

Tom shouldve lost his job the moment he extended kalani. If we had an admin that cares about performance that is

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5/16/20 3:45pm

I strongly lean toward the War Beaver side on this one.

Ham

5/16/20 3:57pm

Classy response by Tom...he’s a stand up guy. I am one who has been critical of

BlooCoog

5/16/20 4:13pm

Tom Holmoe made it clear? Absolutely incorrect.

Backcountry

5/17/20 6:19am

You’re not very well connected to the program then; he’s expressed this desire

BlooCoog

5/17/20 8:59am

I think our biggest mess up was understandable. I think we could have gotten

Trent

5/16/20 5:38pm

"If we had just known they wouldn't collapse"--I said it then and I say it now

mrphotogenic

5/16/20 6:38pm

Agreed. We needed better leadership at that time. BYU needed a Holland and we...

Trent

5/16/20 8:34pm

I very measured response

NorthwestCoug

5/16/20 8:08pm

Tom Holmoe deserves some credit

lukeskywalker

5/17/20 2:55pm

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