Freedom to destroy themselves is pretty much the whole plan of salvation

Jan 5, 2023
6:49:52am

Socrates Johnson All-American

Coupled with a way back from it when and if we want it, offered at Jesus’ cost, and not at ours. Freedom is a more important principle than any other here in this life.

The problem in this case is the reciprocal attempt to exercise unrighteous dominion—those who want to force acceptance on the issue and those who want to force this guy and the people who have decided to put him on the squad to admit that they shouldn’t do so and/or that it is shameful.

The correct answer is to teach the truth in love and let all people, on both sides, govern themselves.

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My plea to Cougar Nation

Cheese Fries

1/4/23 1:46pm

If ALUFs had courage to call out bad yewt behavior I might take this seriously

DazeofBlue

1/4/23 1:47pm

So you are using someone else's bad behavior to justify your bad behavior?

TheHop

1/4/23 1:59pm

Reading fail

DazeofBlue

1/4/23 2:04pm

Please explain how his interpretation is incorrect. It appears to be accurate

here's to hoping

1/4/23 4:00pm

What is my bad behavior?

DazeofBlue

1/4/23 4:30pm

Not taking the OP’s opinion seriously ≠ bad behavior

AlternateShot

1/4/23 4:42pm

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DazeofBlue

1/4/23 4:43pm

Not taking good advice because of another's failure is textbook justification.

here's to hoping

1/4/23 4:58pm

I see this as a writing fail more than a comprehension fail. OP says be kind to

here's to hoping

1/4/23 4:55pm

What is an ALUF?

Tmoney1969

1/4/23 3:05pm

Active LDS Utah Fan

TicoBrown

1/4/23 3:08pm

Worst of the worst.

OldFogey

1/4/23 3:42pm

Here is an example....

BYU Grounds

1/4/23 3:54pm

A mythical being.

zsmooth

1/4/23 4:30pm

He probably does read CB. And I can probably guess his user name.

IGotAverageGifs

1/4/23 1:48pm

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Manti

1/4/23 1:49pm

The EU Soccer injury should get more attention.

Dr. 91coug

1/4/23 2:02pm

Wholeheartedly agree. Let's be kind. Good on the dude for doing what he loves.

bleedsblue

1/4/23 1:50pm

Is it possible to love something too much?

cracka

1/4/23 1:51pm

Yes

Big Red Thunder

1/4/23 1:52pm

RE: Yes

fulano

1/4/23 2:10pm

Yes. My love for cheese and charcuterie will be the end of me.

bleedsblue

1/4/23 1:57pm

So it’s okay to be an embarrassment to the women on the team, as long as he

timander

1/4/23 4:56pm

We all know his presence is virtue signaling

JupiterJones

1/4/23 8:03pm

I don't think he's trying much to be a dude...

AntiSNOT

1/4/23 5:15pm

Wait. That wasn’t Will Ferrell?

byu1

1/4/23 1:52pm

Looks like a guy who lost a bet with another frat

jrifkin48

1/4/23 2:07pm

Give me an 'O'.. give me a 'K'. What does that spell?

AltTabbins

1/4/23 1:52pm

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JimmyZ

1/4/23 1:52pm

No different than most every other cheerleader

Skipshot

1/4/23 2:57pm

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JimmyZ

1/4/23 4:30pm

And football player

YOHONOMOTO

1/4/23 8:54pm

RE: My plea to Cougar Nation

Six Foot Seven

1/4/23 1:53pm

It’s never wrong to choose to be nice.

cheezedawg

1/4/23 1:55pm

Sometimes being nice also means stating the obvious.

Coug

1/4/23 2:04pm

Sometimes truth is being nice, even if it initially hurt feelings.

bluebrotha

1/4/23 2:06pm

Yeah, it it sometimes.

CougarLegend

1/4/23 9:08pm

I get the impression that he's OK with the attention.

Eddie

1/4/23 2:16pm

I like that you chose that video, because the guy talking about it was the wrong

paulb

1/4/23 2:20pm

Is he as good as the others? Run26 dup?

panacablue

1/4/23 1:53pm

amen

demon_llama

1/4/23 1:59pm

"...We first endure, then pity, then embrace."

MarylandFan

1/4/23 2:02pm

"respectfully" is a key word here.

demon_llama

1/4/23 2:07pm

Problem is that any opinion expressed that isn't supportive is considered

Schultz is back

1/4/23 2:28pm

See? that wasn't hard. respectful. nice job.

demon_llama

1/4/23 10:33pm

Very strange to say being a male cheerleader is a gender issue

NYC and Japan

1/4/23 4:45pm

I'm not talking about male cheerleaders as we've known them for generations

MarylandFan

1/4/23 4:49pm

Traditional male cheerleaders are way different hen this guy trying to act like

timander

1/4/23 4:59pm

Exactly. VERY tumultuous. For the last 5-10 years there has been a very

AntiSNOT

1/4/23 5:25pm

Amen!

timander

1/4/23 6:55pm

I agree, but does he have to wear spandex? It's a little different when a guy

bulletproof

1/4/23 2:05pm

hard to tell, but he looks about 6'4"

demon_llama

1/4/23 2:08pm

What does that have to do with anything?

bulletproof

1/4/23 2:19pm

he doesn't look over weight to me for a 6'4" male

demon_llama

1/4/23 10:33pm

Dude had a gut that was jiggling when he danced. He looked overweight and not

BYUlv

1/5/23 7:35am

My plea is we never dissuade people from giving honest opinions.

bluebrotha

1/4/23 2:08pm

Yes, the pursuit of social justice and wokeism is burying freedom of expression.

Hawk in the 303

1/4/23 3:27pm

sometimes, to be civil, it's best to keep your opinion to yourself

demon_llama

1/4/23 10:34pm

Not at the expense of trampling over proven foundation fabrics of our society

bluebrotha

1/4/23 10:40pm

...or else others may roll their eyes at you. NOOOOOO!!!!

Hawk in the 303

1/5/23 10:35am

Total respect to him for going against the grain.

whirl

1/4/23 2:11pm

No respect for embarrassing the women and traditional male cheerleaders

timander

1/4/23 5:00pm

I agree with this post.

Marvelous

1/4/23 2:12pm

My question is... did he go through the same try-out process others went through? It doesn't seem he's following the

Soupie

1/4/23 2:20pm

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runnincoug

1/4/23 2:50pm

I’ve been to quite a few games with my wife, as her family are die hard utes

Julius Pepperwood

1/4/23 3:30pm

So your answer is no he doesn't keep up and it's more of an act.

bulletproof

1/4/23 4:16pm

I think he keeps up just fine

Julius Pepperwood

1/4/23 5:42pm

"Just fine" only works for him. Not another cheerleader.

bulletproof

1/4/23 7:33pm

It’s the u of u dance team, not some Olympic sport. He is better than some of

Julius Pepperwood

1/5/23 10:39am

This👆🏽 💯

kahuna

1/5/23 12:27am

to answer your ?= many times cheerlders free solo-do own moves as was case here

Swishfromdeep3

1/5/23 3:13pm

Don’t buy it. Pretty familiar with cheerleading. That’s just not right.

Soupie

1/5/23 3:28pm

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The_Cuss

1/5/23 3:36pm

It'll be sad when there are no more female cheerleaders because biological males are stronger bases, better tumblers etc

ImBlueDaBaDe

1/5/23 6:30pm

I saw an all-male all-star team compete a few years ago.

zsmooth

1/5/23 7:49pm

Male tumblers are incredible. That would be entertaining. I’d be very surprised if this guy was much of a tumbler.

Soupie

1/5/23 8:57pm

My uneducated guess...

crack

1/4/23 2:22pm

RE: My plea to Cougar Nation

Johnny Vatos

1/4/23 2:25pm

A different take.

Turn and Cough

1/4/23 2:29pm

I mean, I don’t care if the person next to me in heaven is kind as long as they

dreamer

1/4/23 4:19pm

Why would you assume you to get to go "heaven" when

Turn and Cough

1/4/23 4:23pm

I thought the sarcasm was obvious. My bad.

dreamer

1/4/23 4:27pm

Noted. Yeah, it is sometimes lost in written communication.

Turn and Cough

1/4/23 4:30pm

Kind(ness) is a close synonym or closely related to aspects to charity and love

NYC and Japan

1/4/23 4:54pm

A little off, but ok....

Turn and Cough

1/4/23 5:18pm

Freedom to destroy themselves is pretty much the whole plan of salvation

Socrates Johnson

1/5/23 6:49am

Let’s leave the male cheerleader alone and expect all ewets treat us with

Bullrider

1/4/23 7:05pm

This is why Ute fans are awful

TinMan

1/4/23 2:37pm

Right! ALUF's lose their mind over the smallest things on CB but back at home

whirl

1/4/23 2:39pm

These Utes are a great example of judging their neighbors through dirty windows

The_Cuss

1/4/23 5:08pm

This is correct. It's disingenuous.

shammy

1/4/23 7:58pm

Why, is he a special needs kid? If so, good on him for going for it.

No touching

1/4/23 2:45pm

A few thoughts...

Division Bell

1/4/23 2:50pm

This might be the dumbest post in this thread and there are a lot of them

GigantorCat

1/4/23 6:14pm

Nope, Division Bell nailed it.

BleedCougarBlue2

1/4/23 6:41pm

You topped it! Nice job!

Turn and Cough

1/4/23 6:53pm

Interesting. What level of kindness and acceptance of something different are you exhibiting towards me?

Division Bell

1/4/23 6:53pm

Oh i have no intention of accepting or being kind if you think vaccines

GigantorCat

1/4/23 11:23pm

Then maybe your best course of action is to shut up about what anyone else says.

Division Bell

1/5/23 8:37am

Nah, I'll continue to call out ppl that are low on the IQ scale. Cry about it

GigantorCat

1/5/23 6:07pm

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JupiterJones

1/5/23 9:36pm

This post tops your list.

Grock

1/4/23 7:04pm

RE: My plea to Cougar Nation

Mister P

1/4/23 2:51pm

Love one another.

stenso

1/4/23 2:54pm

Not required to love their decisions.

Turn and Cough

1/4/23 2:56pm

No, but not liking their decisions doesn’t give us license to be unkind to them

stenso

1/4/23 3:05pm

It’s a tough line between being kind and encouraging mental illness. Different

CougfromtheSouth

1/4/23 2:59pm

Name checks out

GigantorCat

1/4/23 6:14pm

Whether you look at it from an evolutionary perspective or a religious

CougfromtheSouth

1/4/23 8:08pm

FROM THE SOUTH

GigantorCat

1/4/23 11:26pm

Is there any hate on this board?

Dr MoBYU

1/4/23 3:16pm

Being made fun of is a sign you've arrived. If you can't make fun of something

rcbyufan

1/4/23 3:19pm

If one of the female cheerleaders were making these same faces, would it be rude

rainorsnow

1/4/23 3:49pm

Not sure if anyone has seen the Ali G show from the early 2000s, but this

CouginCottonwood

1/4/23 3:59pm

RE: Not sure if anyone has seen the Ali G show from the early 2000s, but this

CouginCottonwood

1/4/23 4:08pm

He’s a male cheerleader. I am pretty sure he knows what he signed up for. Not

Nagurski

1/4/23 4:02pm

RE: My plea to Cougar Nation

Lavella

1/4/23 4:34pm

Wait, wait, wait. uofuguy eye rolled this post. Life is so confusing now.

rcbyufan

1/4/23 4:36pm

No-one should be exempt from criticism. He looks weird and out of place.

goseabass

1/4/23 4:40pm

Disagree! Undermining women and their traditional activities, is nothing to be

timander

1/4/23 4:53pm

Their traditional activities? Dressing up in scantily clad clothes for men?

RealTaysomHill

1/4/23 4:57pm

That comment says a lot about you

timander

1/4/23 5:02pm

SO COURAGEOUS!!!!

Grock

1/4/23 5:29pm

We need to stop catering to peoples delusions. Thats why our society is failing.

Grock

1/4/23 5:30pm

Whose Place Did He Take?

TarheeledCoug

1/4/23 5:37pm

He has no effect on your life but a smile or laugh. Let the dude live his dream

Burton162

1/4/23 6:01pm

At the expense of someone else more qualified, who's sacrificed more??

whirl

1/4/23 6:09pm

Honest question: Is it "courage" or "stupidity in action"? I'd say the latter.

BleedCougarBlue2

1/4/23 6:35pm

RE: My plea to Cougar Nation

theperkissystem

1/4/23 7:01pm

Wow, what a crybaby

CBaass

1/4/23 7:37pm

RE: My plea to Cougar Nation

Dat_rmishner

1/4/23 8:09pm

I accept your plea. As a Coug, let it be known that I support them 100%.

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