No, National Championships are the common measure of success

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Aug 5, 2012
4:21:38pm

WaHooWaCoug

No, National Championships are the common measure of success

Finishing 2nd =\= Finishing 1st

BCS wins are a measure of success, yes, if they are BCS NCs. You don't hear "AQ" conference teams bragging about their number of non-NC BCS victories. Only a handful of teams are silly enough to claim, "but we finished 2nd... TWICE!"

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WaHooWaCoug

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We have out grown a team that has been ranked in the top25

8/5/12 3:53pm

So the real question is, what would you rather have:

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 3:57pm

Neither, I want score board.

AFwingnut

8/5/12 3:58pm

Yeah, when comparing the two teams, that's really

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 3:59pm

LOL!

8/5/12 4:01pm

Exactly....BYU has legacy and recent success

jrifkin48

8/5/12 5:38pm

Recent success?

DoseOfReality

8/6/12 9:48am

In that case recent success is only considered last 3 years

BYUFam1

8/6/12 9:57am

And most fans just use whatever standard fits their argument

DoseOfReality

8/6/12 11:03am

And then I saw your gifSig

DoseOfReality

8/6/12 11:07am

Well they are

Ragid1

8/6/12 11:21am

I am not even talking about on field performance, we are

8/5/12 4:03pm

Actually, in your post you were talking about football and

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:06pm

Ok fair enough, I am talking about on field performance for

8/5/12 4:09pm

If you wanna have yet another P12 inclusion argument, then

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:13pm

Yeah, who cares about on-field performance

Medute

8/5/12 4:07pm

We also have more titles in football, too.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:10pm

Yes you do and that's a good point

Medute

8/5/12 4:15pm

It's really only the last 10 yrs...

icecougar

8/6/12 3:41am

Agreed, good summary

Medute

8/6/12 3:43am

In a weird way...

icecougar

8/6/12 4:44am

Agreed, and I have no problems with those guys

Medute

8/6/12 6:32am

LOL, you exagerate terribly and I'll put you in your place

8/5/12 4:12pm

Here is what is sad

Medute

8/5/12 4:23pm

+1. As soon as this thread got fired up I remembered who

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:27pm

This is a hipocritical post after the complete exageration

8/5/12 5:59pm

What's the head-to-head records over the last 20 years?

Medute

8/5/12 6:05pm

Utah 12, BYU 8 but why only 20 years

8/5/12 6:18pm

ok, you win

Medute

8/5/12 6:19pm

that's why to me the only relevant h2h discussion is...

icecougar

8/6/12 4:48am

And BYU has more

byu1

8/5/12 5:37pm

If we were talking about on field performance BSU would be

8/5/12 4:07pm

You're saying, that ALMOST finishing 1st, twice, ...

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:08pm

So you'd pick history. That's your opinion.

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:11pm

That's a lot of weight you put on TWO seasons.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:12pm

I find it funny that you are trying to diminish the

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:14pm

Well, I can't speak for other CBers...

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:15pm

BCS wins has been the measure of success in CFB

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:18pm

No, National Championships are the common measure of success

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:21pm

Ok, I'll give you that.

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:25pm

Ok, I like that. We're agreed.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:27pm

If Big time=programs like

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:29pm

Cool. Fair enough.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:30pm

of course you wouldn't personally care for a WAC title

BYUFam1

8/5/12 4:25pm

it's ironic but it's only because they're sick of hearing...

icecougar

8/6/12 4:29am

It's been 2-3 decades

Medute

8/5/12 4:13pm

Yeah, and one National Champtionship is still more than...

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:15pm

I was 4

Medute

8/5/12 4:17pm

That's a good point.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:31pm

By that argument, those games didn't happen...

BluePete

8/5/12 4:35pm

Right.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:40pm

I certainly didn't mean that

Medute

8/5/12 4:49pm

All things equal, yes. But a National Championship isn't...

PhillyYFan

8/5/12 5:05pm

Yeah, but it's not like BYU did anything different than Utah

Medute

8/5/12 5:09pm

FAIRLY? Are you kidding me?

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 5:10pm

Tell me what BYU accomplished on the field that Utah didn't

Medute

8/5/12 5:16pm

You're grasping at straws.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 5:37pm

You keep twisting my point

Medute

8/5/12 5:49pm

You said, and I quote,

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 6:18pm

Something BYU's team did...

BYUFam1

8/5/12 6:52pm

You make a really good point

Medute

8/5/12 8:29pm

Let me help you out...

macaroni

8/5/12 7:06pm

BYU spent 3 weeks at #1 before the bowls in both polls

BYUFam1

8/5/12 7:30pm

The whole Bama didn't want to be there thing is stupid

Medute

8/5/12 8:38pm

Well there is a playoff now

Ragid1

8/6/12 11:17am

Your post is possibly the worst post in this entire thread

macaroni

8/6/12 3:33pm

Colorado, Georgia Tech, Minnesota, Syracuse

Medute

8/6/12 3:43pm

That's crazy, but not surprising

macaroni

8/6/12 8:44pm

I was "college age"...it means lots, trust me.

BluePete

8/5/12 4:32pm

53 years...kind of a random number

Medute

8/5/12 4:51pm

I was 7 ... and there's no way I'd trade you.

PhillyYFan

8/5/12 4:41pm

Keep in mind it's a National Championship that no one said

BluePete

8/5/12 4:45pm

You won the CFB beauty pageant

Medute

8/5/12 4:54pm

Yep. The same beauty pageant

macaroni

8/5/12 6:01pm

Hold those games dear to you they are precious rare gems. ha

8/5/12 4:43pm

In the current format a non BCS team is going nearly every..

PhillyYFan

8/5/12 4:49pm

Really?

ragid

8/5/12 9:41pm

Interesting question

Medute

8/5/12 10:47pm

LOL, in twenty years from now no one will ever mention your

8/5/12 11:12pm

RE: Interesting question

BYUFam1

8/6/12 12:08am

Not at all what I said

Medute

8/6/12 2:50am

Timing does make a difference.

ragid

8/6/12 9:16am

Legacy for sure

Jeffacka

8/5/12 4:08pm

I can understand your opinion.

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:12pm

BYU has so much tradition and history

Jeffacka

8/5/12 4:15pm

Ok.

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:18pm

i remember Ute fans using

byukarl

8/5/12 4:40pm

The PAC 12 isn't hard for me

Jeffacka

8/5/12 4:43pm

See, we can have both, you can kind of have one.

Mr Blue

8/5/12 4:37pm

PS team, VirginiaUte is definitely a Ute and not a yewt

8/5/12 4:56pm

+1

icecougar

8/6/12 4:55am

Medute is cool too.

ragid

8/6/12 9:13am

Awww shucks. Although many would not agree :)

Medute

8/6/12 2:55pm

Will Your Answer Apply To Basketball?

8/6/12 7:31am

Yes, I think it would.

VirginiaUte

8/6/12 3:51pm

That is a beautiful hold on #72 you have in your gif.

TBirdCougar

8/6/12 8:05pm

I've never taken my eyes off of JW IV long enough during

VirginiaUte

8/6/12 8:23pm

Ok, time for UOP category. 'Ute Obsession Post' They don't

MatthiasG

8/5/12 9:27pm

Yes, then I can ignore it. Would be wonderful

yfootball

8/6/12 8:26am

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