that's why to me the only relevant h2h discussion is...

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Aug 6, 2012
4:48:38am

icecougar

that's why to me the only relevant h2h discussion is...

...Bronco vs Whitt. It's easy and makes sense where to draw the line (they both started the same year) and because both coaches are still here it continues to be a relevant discussion.

any other attempt to talk about h2h results is argumentative because each side of the argument can find a starting point that benefits their side more.

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We have out grown a team that has been ranked in the top25

8/5/12 3:53pm

So the real question is, what would you rather have:

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 3:57pm

Neither, I want score board.

AFwingnut

8/5/12 3:58pm

Yeah, when comparing the two teams, that's really

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 3:59pm

LOL!

8/5/12 4:01pm

Exactly....BYU has legacy and recent success

jrifkin48

8/5/12 5:38pm

Recent success?

DoseOfReality

8/6/12 9:48am

In that case recent success is only considered last 3 years

BYUFam1

8/6/12 9:57am

And most fans just use whatever standard fits their argument

DoseOfReality

8/6/12 11:03am

And then I saw your gifSig

DoseOfReality

8/6/12 11:07am

Well they are

Ragid1

8/6/12 11:21am

I am not even talking about on field performance, we are

8/5/12 4:03pm

Actually, in your post you were talking about football and

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:06pm

Ok fair enough, I am talking about on field performance for

8/5/12 4:09pm

If you wanna have yet another P12 inclusion argument, then

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:13pm

Yeah, who cares about on-field performance

Medute

8/5/12 4:07pm

We also have more titles in football, too.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:10pm

Yes you do and that's a good point

Medute

8/5/12 4:15pm

It's really only the last 10 yrs...

icecougar

8/6/12 3:41am

Agreed, good summary

Medute

8/6/12 3:43am

In a weird way...

icecougar

8/6/12 4:44am

Agreed, and I have no problems with those guys

Medute

8/6/12 6:32am

LOL, you exagerate terribly and I'll put you in your place

8/5/12 4:12pm

Here is what is sad

Medute

8/5/12 4:23pm

+1. As soon as this thread got fired up I remembered who

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:27pm

This is a hipocritical post after the complete exageration

8/5/12 5:59pm

What's the head-to-head records over the last 20 years?

Medute

8/5/12 6:05pm

Utah 12, BYU 8 but why only 20 years

8/5/12 6:18pm

ok, you win

Medute

8/5/12 6:19pm

that's why to me the only relevant h2h discussion is...

icecougar

8/6/12 4:48am

And BYU has more

byu1

8/5/12 5:37pm

If we were talking about on field performance BSU would be

8/5/12 4:07pm

You're saying, that ALMOST finishing 1st, twice, ...

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:08pm

So you'd pick history. That's your opinion.

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:11pm

That's a lot of weight you put on TWO seasons.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:12pm

I find it funny that you are trying to diminish the

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:14pm

Well, I can't speak for other CBers...

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:15pm

BCS wins has been the measure of success in CFB

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:18pm

No, National Championships are the common measure of success

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:21pm

Ok, I'll give you that.

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:25pm

Ok, I like that. We're agreed.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:27pm

If Big time=programs like

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:29pm

Cool. Fair enough.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:30pm

of course you wouldn't personally care for a WAC title

BYUFam1

8/5/12 4:25pm

it's ironic but it's only because they're sick of hearing...

icecougar

8/6/12 4:29am

It's been 2-3 decades

Medute

8/5/12 4:13pm

Yeah, and one National Champtionship is still more than...

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:15pm

I was 4

Medute

8/5/12 4:17pm

That's a good point.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:31pm

By that argument, those games didn't happen...

BluePete

8/5/12 4:35pm

Right.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 4:40pm

I certainly didn't mean that

Medute

8/5/12 4:49pm

All things equal, yes. But a National Championship isn't...

PhillyYFan

8/5/12 5:05pm

Yeah, but it's not like BYU did anything different than Utah

Medute

8/5/12 5:09pm

FAIRLY? Are you kidding me?

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 5:10pm

Tell me what BYU accomplished on the field that Utah didn't

Medute

8/5/12 5:16pm

You're grasping at straws.

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 5:37pm

You keep twisting my point

Medute

8/5/12 5:49pm

You said, and I quote,

WaHooWaCoug

8/5/12 6:18pm

Something BYU's team did...

BYUFam1

8/5/12 6:52pm

You make a really good point

Medute

8/5/12 8:29pm

Let me help you out...

macaroni

8/5/12 7:06pm

BYU spent 3 weeks at #1 before the bowls in both polls

BYUFam1

8/5/12 7:30pm

The whole Bama didn't want to be there thing is stupid

Medute

8/5/12 8:38pm

Well there is a playoff now

Ragid1

8/6/12 11:17am

Your post is possibly the worst post in this entire thread

macaroni

8/6/12 3:33pm

Colorado, Georgia Tech, Minnesota, Syracuse

Medute

8/6/12 3:43pm

That's crazy, but not surprising

macaroni

8/6/12 8:44pm

I was "college age"...it means lots, trust me.

BluePete

8/5/12 4:32pm

53 years...kind of a random number

Medute

8/5/12 4:51pm

I was 7 ... and there's no way I'd trade you.

PhillyYFan

8/5/12 4:41pm

Keep in mind it's a National Championship that no one said

BluePete

8/5/12 4:45pm

You won the CFB beauty pageant

Medute

8/5/12 4:54pm

Yep. The same beauty pageant

macaroni

8/5/12 6:01pm

Hold those games dear to you they are precious rare gems. ha

8/5/12 4:43pm

In the current format a non BCS team is going nearly every..

PhillyYFan

8/5/12 4:49pm

Really?

ragid

8/5/12 9:41pm

Interesting question

Medute

8/5/12 10:47pm

LOL, in twenty years from now no one will ever mention your

8/5/12 11:12pm

RE: Interesting question

BYUFam1

8/6/12 12:08am

Not at all what I said

Medute

8/6/12 2:50am

Timing does make a difference.

ragid

8/6/12 9:16am

Legacy for sure

Jeffacka

8/5/12 4:08pm

I can understand your opinion.

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:12pm

BYU has so much tradition and history

Jeffacka

8/5/12 4:15pm

Ok.

VirginiaUte

8/5/12 4:18pm

i remember Ute fans using

byukarl

8/5/12 4:40pm

The PAC 12 isn't hard for me

Jeffacka

8/5/12 4:43pm

See, we can have both, you can kind of have one.

Mr Blue

8/5/12 4:37pm

PS team, VirginiaUte is definitely a Ute and not a yewt

8/5/12 4:56pm

+1

icecougar

8/6/12 4:55am

Medute is cool too.

ragid

8/6/12 9:13am

Awww shucks. Although many would not agree :)

Medute

8/6/12 2:55pm

Will Your Answer Apply To Basketball?

8/6/12 7:31am

Yes, I think it would.

VirginiaUte

8/6/12 3:51pm

That is a beautiful hold on #72 you have in your gif.

TBirdCougar

8/6/12 8:05pm

I've never taken my eyes off of JW IV long enough during

VirginiaUte

8/6/12 8:23pm

Ok, time for UOP category. 'Ute Obsession Post' They don't

MatthiasG

8/5/12 9:27pm

Yes, then I can ignore it. Would be wonderful

yfootball

8/6/12 8:26am

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