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Aug 21, 2018
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FairWeather-L.I.T.S.
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Jake hit receivers in practice too. Not consistently valid correlation.
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This concerns me about Tanner
Bleeding Blue
8/21/18 9:02am
Wow, catastrophic. It doesn't matter as much where the ball is released as it
PhilPete
8/21/18 9:05am
It was noted last year that his release point had changed
Greg Kite's 'stache
8/21/18 9:10am
Maybe, but release point in and of itself means little if he delivers on time
PhilPete
8/21/18 9:12am
The point isn't so much about the pros and cons of the release point
Greg Kite's 'stache
8/21/18 10:22am
Unless it does get past the line of scrimmage
Bleeding Blue
8/21/18 9:15am
There are many QB's at every level who have the dreaded "low" release point. Way
PhilPete
8/21/18 9:30am
Matt Berry? I must have missed the fun
Memmo
8/21/18 9:31am
Dude was hurt a lot but played some good minutes too.
PhilPete
8/21/18 9:33am
Tanner's is exceptionally low. And it does make a difference.
dYrtbYkerYder
8/21/18 10:43am
exactly...see vince young
doctorthunderpants
8/21/18 11:43am
Good point. Even Jaren, small in stature, gets the ball up better
BlueZone
8/21/18 9:06am
Apparently, doesn’t worry the coaching staff too much
2FarGone
8/21/18 9:09am
Is that why a 25 year old Senior has yet to beat out a tru fresh?
Bleeding Blue
8/21/18 9:16am
Wilson is better than anyone expected
2FarGone
8/21/18 9:18am
Due in large part to his mechanics
Bleeding Blue
8/21/18 9:20am
You don't know that. Much more likely it's what's in his head than how he
basman
8/21/18 9:23am
"Due in large part..." interesting.
TheLoneCougar
8/21/18 9:24am
Looks like we found our next QB coach!
GigantorCat
8/21/18 9:29am
Wilson said himself it’s because he graduated early and was able to
Superman21
8/21/18 9:35am
Or if Sr continues slide backward...
FairWeather-L.I.T.S.
8/21/18 9:38am
His release point has nothing to do with that.
FanofBYU
8/21/18 11:55am
You mean the same QB coach who never tried to fix Travis Wilson’s awful throwing
wcj99
8/21/18 11:46pm
i've critical of mangum pretty much ever since he became a QB at BYU, but
smokymountainrain
8/21/18 9:09am
All irrelevant
FairWeather-L.I.T.S.
8/21/18 9:41am
he is trying to needle it through a tight space on those throws. I agree it's
Avery
8/21/18 9:09am
Oh my word. Can the offseason please end sooner?
Six Foot Seven
8/21/18 9:12am
Another problem is...
Coug
8/21/18 9:13am
that isn't necessarily a bad thing - in fact, the ability and patience to stand
smokymountainrain
8/21/18 9:21am
I imagine Hall will have ability to keep play alive with his feet, so can wait
viper
8/21/18 9:26am
In a sample size of the best plays of each from practice
teancum
8/21/18 11:10am
The QB in this video had a low release point, too
Coop
8/21/18 9:14am
Man, I loved that team and season so much.
autonomous
8/21/18 9:30am
Videos that aren't in HD should be banned from the internet.
GigantorCat
8/21/18 9:31am
Such a smooth motion and release, though. Oh, man...that team was driven...
Refugee
8/21/18 10:19am
His mechanics are pretty different from his freshman season.
RdF3
8/21/18 9:14am
I like to see him quickly going through progressions. That's a big positive.
ReggaeCoug
8/21/18 9:20am
IMO, bigger deal is presence in the pocket
bluelands
8/21/18 9:23am
It is concerning to anyone who follows FB
gstodd
8/21/18 9:24am
This is nothing new. He got some QB coaching this summer at QB Elite and they talked abou it too.
Turnpike Lane
8/21/18 9:27am
Everyone said the same thing about Philip Rivers
kapcreations
8/21/18 9:28am
So, you learned from watching the ESPN that a QB should release the ball high?
Heavily MeDeekated
8/21/18 9:30am
You're welcome
Bleeding Blue
8/21/18 12:15pm
Watch Max Hall (winningest BYU QB) and Jo. Beck deliver the ball. Low release pt
TrueBlue58
8/21/18 9:30am
Beck's inconsistent release had the additional problem of the ball sailing
bluelands
8/21/18 9:48am
Same with Phillip Rivers and Matthew Stafford
Odysseus
8/21/18 11:04am
Well at least he's not fat anymore.
Josef K
8/21/18 9:31am
Too many guys obsess about mechanics. It's what's between the ears that matters.
Backcountry
8/21/18 9:35am
Your truth is not welcome here, stormcrow!
FairWeather-L.I.T.S.
8/21/18 9:42am
You need both
Coop
8/21/18 10:18am
Watch Max Hall throw 7 TD passes v. UCLA in 2008: low release point...
TrueBlue58
8/21/18 9:40am
Watch John Beck shred TCU in arguably his best BYU game. Low release point...
TrueBlue58
8/21/18 9:49am
* Not as low as Tanner's.
dYrtbYkerYder
8/21/18 10:53am
It also looks to me like Tanner has lost velocity with his change in mechanics.
dYrtbYkerYder
8/21/18 10:54am
* Not as low as Tanner's.
dYrtbYkerYder
8/21/18 10:53am
He has the release of a Ute QB. that’s funny. Thank Roderick.
Virginia Ute
8/21/18 9:44am
RE: He has the release of a Ute QB. that’s funny. Thank Roderick.
smokymountainrain
8/21/18 9:48am
He doesnt throw a spiral but if its caught who cares
Y4LYFE
8/21/18 11:06am
Low release point means nothing. Plenty of excellent QB's with low releases.
joesemenoff
8/21/18 11:22am
You guys are funny
shakarocks
8/21/18 11:22am
I'm more concerned that his mechanics have changed over the last two weeks
ColoSpgs
8/21/18 11:35am
The low release point doesn't concern me, but passes batted at the line do...
The Chelsea Dagger
8/21/18 12:02pm
OK, "low" relesease experts, explailn this......
PhilPete
8/21/18 12:24pm
Honestly, I see a fairly big difference.
dYrtbYkerYder
8/21/18 12:27pm
Where? His stroke is unchanged.
PhilPete
8/22/18 2:21pm
Compare 0:18 seconds vs. 2:12. Night and day difference.
dYrtbYkerYder
8/22/18 2:33pm
Also look at 5:12 in the second video.
dYrtbYkerYder
8/22/18 2:36pm
Don't worry, none of these guys know what they are talking about
shakarocks
8/21/18 12:39pm
Actually, I'm referencing similar throws where he has time to set his feet. It's
dYrtbYkerYder
8/21/18 1:10pm
Somebody coached TM to spread out his feet more
antiyewt
8/21/18 1:10pm
Mechanics coaches are the best on here
Lip Gallagher
8/21/18 1:28pm
These posts are getting so old.
Bleedblue84
8/21/18 1:31pm
What I've heard is that Mangum has regained some velocity this year and that his accuracy is up
Indy Coug
8/21/18 1:57pm
Does "regained some velocity" mean that it's still down from his Freshman year?
dYrtbYkerYder
8/21/18 3:37pm
RE: This concerns me about Tanner
PA_pete
8/21/18 2:32pm
Biggest concern about Tanner: Way too slow to release the ball.
TrueBlue67
8/21/18 4:07pm
Technically, Tanner's achille's heel last year was his actual achille's heel
Greg Kite's 'stache
8/21/18 4:22pm
RE: Technically, Tanner's achille's heel last year was his actual achille's heel
jkccoug
8/21/18 5:45pm
Yeah, looked a little side armed
CharlottesvilleCoug
8/21/18 4:20pm
I hate his throwing motion. Bad form.
Sooner Cougar
8/21/18 4:21pm
To me Wilson's looks a little higher but it seems like both are "tippable."
WaybackCougar
8/21/18 4:46pm
I like me some Jaren Hall. Kid looks like a baller.
jkccoug
8/21/18 5:43pm
Listen to Smith on 960
playbook
8/21/18 6:17pm
But CBers think that other fans are incapable of making that obvious observation
dYrtbYkerYder
8/21/18 7:55pm
Yep, it’s not just armchair coaches noticing this. Professional ones are too.
ldssdl
8/21/18 8:31pm
Everyone is focused on his release - wrong problem!
antiyewt
8/23/18 9:35am
Thanks quarterback whisperer
Swishfromdeep3
8/21/18 6:32pm
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