Low release point means nothing. Plenty of excellent QB's with low releases.

Aug 21, 2018
11:22:06am

joesemenoff Walk-on

Don't worry about where the ball is released, worry about where it ends up. Mangum throws as beautiful a ball as any BYU QB i've seen. The difference this year will be scheme and discipline, and it will show.

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This concerns me about Tanner

Bleeding Blue

8/21/18 9:02am

Wow, catastrophic. It doesn't matter as much where the ball is released as it

PhilPete

8/21/18 9:05am

It was noted last year that his release point had changed

Greg Kite's 'stache

8/21/18 9:10am

Maybe, but release point in and of itself means little if he delivers on time

PhilPete

8/21/18 9:12am

The point isn't so much about the pros and cons of the release point

Greg Kite's 'stache

8/21/18 10:22am

Unless it does get past the line of scrimmage

Bleeding Blue

8/21/18 9:15am

There are many QB's at every level who have the dreaded "low" release point. Way

PhilPete

8/21/18 9:30am

Matt Berry? I must have missed the fun

Memmo

8/21/18 9:31am

Dude was hurt a lot but played some good minutes too.

PhilPete

8/21/18 9:33am

Tanner's is exceptionally low. And it does make a difference.

dYrtbYkerYder

8/21/18 10:43am

exactly...see vince young

doctorthunderpants

8/21/18 11:43am

Good point. Even Jaren, small in stature, gets the ball up better

BlueZone

8/21/18 9:06am

Apparently, doesn’t worry the coaching staff too much

2FarGone

8/21/18 9:09am

Is that why a 25 year old Senior has yet to beat out a tru fresh?

Bleeding Blue

8/21/18 9:16am

Wilson is better than anyone expected

2FarGone

8/21/18 9:18am

Due in large part to his mechanics

Bleeding Blue

8/21/18 9:20am

You don't know that. Much more likely it's what's in his head than how he

basman

8/21/18 9:23am

"Due in large part..." interesting.

TheLoneCougar

8/21/18 9:24am

Looks like we found our next QB coach!

GigantorCat

8/21/18 9:29am

Wilson said himself it’s because he graduated early and was able to

Superman21

8/21/18 9:35am

Or if Sr continues slide backward...

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

8/21/18 9:38am

His release point has nothing to do with that.

FanofBYU

8/21/18 11:55am

You mean the same QB coach who never tried to fix Travis Wilson’s awful throwing

wcj99

8/21/18 11:46pm

i've critical of mangum pretty much ever since he became a QB at BYU, but

smokymountainrain

8/21/18 9:09am

All irrelevant

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

8/21/18 9:41am

he is trying to needle it through a tight space on those throws. I agree it's

Avery

8/21/18 9:09am

Oh my word. Can the offseason please end sooner?

Six Foot Seven

8/21/18 9:12am

Another problem is...

Coug

8/21/18 9:13am

that isn't necessarily a bad thing - in fact, the ability and patience to stand

smokymountainrain

8/21/18 9:21am

I imagine Hall will have ability to keep play alive with his feet, so can wait

viper

8/21/18 9:26am

In a sample size of the best plays of each from practice

teancum

8/21/18 11:10am

The QB in this video had a low release point, too

Coop

8/21/18 9:14am

Man, I loved that team and season so much.

autonomous

8/21/18 9:30am

Videos that aren't in HD should be banned from the internet.

GigantorCat

8/21/18 9:31am

Such a smooth motion and release, though. Oh, man...that team was driven...

Refugee

8/21/18 10:19am

His mechanics are pretty different from his freshman season.

RdF3

8/21/18 9:14am

I like to see him quickly going through progressions. That's a big positive.

ReggaeCoug

8/21/18 9:20am

IMO, bigger deal is presence in the pocket

bluelands

8/21/18 9:23am

It is concerning to anyone who follows FB

gstodd

8/21/18 9:24am

This is nothing new. He got some QB coaching this summer at QB Elite and they talked abou it too.

Turnpike Lane

8/21/18 9:27am

Everyone said the same thing about Philip Rivers

kapcreations

8/21/18 9:28am

So, you learned from watching the ESPN that a QB should release the ball high?

Heavily MeDeekated

8/21/18 9:30am

You're welcome

Bleeding Blue

8/21/18 12:15pm

Watch Max Hall (winningest BYU QB) and Jo. Beck deliver the ball. Low release pt

TrueBlue58

8/21/18 9:30am

Beck's inconsistent release had the additional problem of the ball sailing

bluelands

8/21/18 9:48am

Same with Phillip Rivers and Matthew Stafford

Odysseus

8/21/18 11:04am

Well at least he's not fat anymore.

Josef K

8/21/18 9:31am

Too many guys obsess about mechanics. It's what's between the ears that matters.

Backcountry

8/21/18 9:35am

Your truth is not welcome here, stormcrow!

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

8/21/18 9:42am

You need both

Coop

8/21/18 10:18am

Watch Max Hall throw 7 TD passes v. UCLA in 2008: low release point...

TrueBlue58

8/21/18 9:40am

Watch John Beck shred TCU in arguably his best BYU game. Low release point...

TrueBlue58

8/21/18 9:49am

* Not as low as Tanner's.

dYrtbYkerYder

8/21/18 10:53am

It also looks to me like Tanner has lost velocity with his change in mechanics.

dYrtbYkerYder

8/21/18 10:54am

* Not as low as Tanner's.

dYrtbYkerYder

8/21/18 10:53am

He has the release of a Ute QB. that’s funny. Thank Roderick.

Virginia Ute

8/21/18 9:44am

RE: He has the release of a Ute QB. that’s funny. Thank Roderick.

smokymountainrain

8/21/18 9:48am

He doesnt throw a spiral but if its caught who cares

Y4LYFE

8/21/18 11:06am

Low release point means nothing. Plenty of excellent QB's with low releases.

joesemenoff

8/21/18 11:22am

You guys are funny

shakarocks

8/21/18 11:22am

I'm more concerned that his mechanics have changed over the last two weeks

ColoSpgs

8/21/18 11:35am

The low release point doesn't concern me, but passes batted at the line do...

The Chelsea Dagger

8/21/18 12:02pm

OK, "low" relesease experts, explailn this......

PhilPete

8/21/18 12:24pm

Honestly, I see a fairly big difference.

dYrtbYkerYder

8/21/18 12:27pm

Where? His stroke is unchanged.

PhilPete

8/22/18 2:21pm

Compare 0:18 seconds vs. 2:12. Night and day difference.

dYrtbYkerYder

8/22/18 2:33pm

Also look at 5:12 in the second video.

dYrtbYkerYder

8/22/18 2:36pm

Don't worry, none of these guys know what they are talking about

shakarocks

8/21/18 12:39pm

Actually, I'm referencing similar throws where he has time to set his feet. It's

dYrtbYkerYder

8/21/18 1:10pm

Somebody coached TM to spread out his feet more

antiyewt

8/21/18 1:10pm

Mechanics coaches are the best on here

Lip Gallagher

8/21/18 1:28pm

These posts are getting so old.

Bleedblue84

8/21/18 1:31pm

What I've heard is that Mangum has regained some velocity this year and that his accuracy is up

Indy Coug

8/21/18 1:57pm

Does "regained some velocity" mean that it's still down from his Freshman year?

dYrtbYkerYder

8/21/18 3:37pm

RE: This concerns me about Tanner

PA_pete

8/21/18 2:32pm

Biggest concern about Tanner: Way too slow to release the ball.

TrueBlue67

8/21/18 4:07pm

Technically, Tanner's achille's heel last year was his actual achille's heel

Greg Kite's 'stache

8/21/18 4:22pm

RE: Technically, Tanner's achille's heel last year was his actual achille's heel

jkccoug

8/21/18 5:45pm

Yeah, looked a little side armed

CharlottesvilleCoug

8/21/18 4:20pm

I hate his throwing motion. Bad form.

Sooner Cougar

8/21/18 4:21pm

To me Wilson's looks a little higher but it seems like both are "tippable."

WaybackCougar

8/21/18 4:46pm

I like me some Jaren Hall. Kid looks like a baller.

jkccoug

8/21/18 5:43pm

Listen to Smith on 960

playbook

8/21/18 6:17pm

But CBers think that other fans are incapable of making that obvious observation

dYrtbYkerYder

8/21/18 7:55pm

Yep, it’s not just armchair coaches noticing this. Professional ones are too.

ldssdl

8/21/18 8:31pm

Everyone is focused on his release - wrong problem!

antiyewt

8/23/18 9:35am

Thanks quarterback whisperer

Swishfromdeep3

8/21/18 6:32pm

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