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Jun 12, 2019
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a priori
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Nope.
You qualify for his grace by doing your best.
His grace does it all.
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My parents and I followed the "gospel" plan on paying for my mission and college
DetmerForever
6/12/19 9:58am
I agree with what you're saying from a monetary viewpoint, but disagree that
Preppy
6/12/19 10:06am
Thanks, Brother Wilcox!
kccougar
6/12/19 10:07am
Haha...exactly
Preppy
6/12/19 10:48am
Technically, the Lord doesn't make up the difference. He does it all.
a priori
6/12/19 10:16am
^^is a hack and didn't read the post above
a priori
6/12/19 10:17am
That's nonsensical. For those, like me, destined for the telestial kingdom
rcbyufan
6/12/19 10:25am
Nope.
a priori
6/12/19 10:39am
You do understand what "qualify" means. We "qualify"
rcbyufan
6/12/19 10:42am
RE: You do understand what "qualify" means. We "qualify"
a priori
6/12/19 10:45am
Everybody gets as much as they are willing to receive.
dilbert
6/12/19 12:05pm
So it's on us. We have to do something. That's my position.
rcbyufan
6/12/19 12:15pm
Nobody is disagreeing with that. The question is what our works accomplish.
garyfan
6/12/19 12:20pm
That's just semantics
rcbyufan
6/12/19 12:23pm
It's not semantics.
a priori
6/12/19 12:42pm
Not to me. It’s an important distinction that impacts my motivation/reason for
garyfan
6/12/19 1:44pm
So technically he doesn't do it all. He does everything but our best which we have to do. I mean if we are being
Baron
6/12/19 10:25am
Nope.
a priori
6/12/19 10:37am
So if you don't do your best grace has got it all?
Baron
6/12/19 10:40am
No. Grace always does it all.
a priori
6/12/19 10:41am
So it depends on what you do? I don't see how it does it all but also depends on you.
Baron
6/12/19 10:44am
The distinction is clear:
a priori
6/12/19 10:49am
That distinction is anything but clear at best you are using semantics to make your point by defining it
Baron
6/12/19 10:52am
Yikes...I thought the atonement was infinite. So, how did he not pay in full?
Preppy
6/12/19 10:57am
You always have to make the choice as I stated below. No matter what you have to choose at some
Baron
6/12/19 11:03am
Technically, we have to do something to qualify for his grace.
a priori
6/12/19 11:19am
I interpreted your he does it all to mean you arguing a broader point. If you meant to
Baron
6/12/19 12:39pm
So you're arguing something that was never said?
a priori
6/12/19 12:47pm
You said "He does it all." And then you said again "Grace always does it all"
Baron
6/12/19 12:56pm
I agree that you misunderstood my point.
a priori
6/12/19 1:04pm
So you did not understand my point. Got it.
Baron
6/12/19 2:02pm
We were agreeing all along? Well isn't that just classic CB.
a priori
6/12/19 2:07pm
Exactly, cause Christ asks us to do a lot. So, ya...if you're aiming at
Preppy
6/12/19 11:45am
Christ paid the price already...all of it. So, Christ sets the terms. He judges
Preppy
6/12/19 10:55am
Grace definitely saves everyone...without any effort whatsoever. You don't
Preppy
6/12/19 11:01am
You had to choose to come to earth. There has always been a choice.
Baron
6/12/19 11:02am
So, someone can choose to not accept a resurrection of glory? Uh...I guess
Preppy
6/12/19 11:40am
You guys sound amazing bickering over details neither of you definitively know
HBCoug
6/12/19 10:48am
Welcome to CB!
a priori
6/12/19 10:51am
It's a higher form of interaction here.
rcbyufan
6/12/19 10:58am
I have no doubt. I didn't want to embarrass Baron, but you were totally the
HBCoug
6/12/19 11:04am
RE: I have no doubt. I didn't want to embarrass Baron, but you were totally the
Baron
6/12/19 11:07am
I think one detail needs to be clarified. Christ does not require that
garyfan
6/12/19 11:32am
My oldest son has saved $10,000 for his mission and leaves shortly.
BYU-Ite
6/12/19 10:30am
I have thought about this but never was comfortable with lying about my intent to my kids.
Baron
6/12/19 10:32am
I can understand that. I rationalized mine under the same caveat as,
BYU-Ite
6/12/19 10:42am
I'd recommend letting your son pay for the mission.
jvquarterback
6/12/19 4:13pm
I love this approach and can empathize with your son.
CougaRR4L
6/13/19 10:57am
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