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Oct 8, 2019
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Ozymandias
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Haha. You really dont see the difference between public backlash and a
government censoring speech?
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Ozymandias
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The craziest thing to me is seeing some of the same people who hated Kaep for protesting a social issue in the US, then
scootsy
First name: Tom; Last: Foolery
10/8/19 6:23am
I disagreed with Kaep's approach not his right.
Tweege
10/8/19 6:36am
Time and place. Morey didn’t put it on the scoreboard during a game or
gwalker
10/8/19 6:44am
Except people still dismissed the issue. Convenient excuse, hate the messenger so that you can block out the message
scootsy
10/8/19 6:52am
The message was some vague "america is bad and racist" attack
Mems
10/8/19 7:13am
So you informed yourself and then took a stance? Well done. Doesn’t sound like you tried that with Kaep though.
scootsy
10/8/19 7:20am
Kaep hasn't really informed himself either, have you heard him talk on the
IceCreamButt
10/8/19 7:54am
Which - as Marcellus Wiley notes - is why Kaep shut up and stopped talking and
oxcoug
10/8/19 5:11pm
At least he has shut up, although now he decides if shoes are racist or not.
IceCreamButt
10/8/19 5:39pm
Don't blame me if Kaep can't communicate a clear message
Mems
10/8/19 8:47am
What issue are you saying "people" ignored? A lot of people are critical of Kaep
oxcoug
10/8/19 3:27pm
I still don't understand why Kaep couldn't have protested in a way that
DapperDan
10/8/19 6:51am
Ruined your Sundays?
JuicyJam
10/8/19 6:58am
The point of the protest was so that you would hear about it...?
Jimmerfan32
10/8/19 7:42am
You missed the sarcasm.
ironman1315
10/8/19 8:13am
Right? Why can’t every protest be silent. I ain’t got no time for that!
Jay Rick
10/8/19 5:59pm
Lol. Yes that’s it
YIsForBrigham
10/8/19 6:52am
Because obviously every social issue and every protest is exactly the same
Skeptical Optimist
10/8/19 6:58am
RE: The craziest thing to me is seeing some of the same people who hated Kaep
TerribleOpinionsGuy
10/8/19 6:58am
If the situation of the people in China was remotely close to anyone in America,
Little Britches
10/8/19 6:59am
Yeah, innocent 18 year olds never get shot by security forces in the US
Wagon
10/8/19 4:47pm
This is a bad oversimplification of the situation.
crazY
10/8/19 4:48pm
Oh my life in the US is worlds better than it would be in China, for sure. But
Wagon
10/8/19 5:00pm
All segments of our people are worlds ahead of the average Chinese person.
crazY
10/8/19 7:34pm
Offer any Chinese you want a trade and you’ll get taken up on it
Little Britches
10/8/19 6:38pm
Isn't this the part where all the people who gave this a thumbs up are supposed
TerribleOpinionsGuy
10/8/19 7:03am
I'm kind of surprised you got some thumbs up
Idahofallsblue
10/8/19 7:27am
Look who gave it the thumbs up and you won't be surprised.
TerribleOpinionsGuy
10/8/19 7:34am
Haha. You really dont see the difference between public backlash and a
Ozymandias
10/8/19 7:29am
Just like the Chinese government criticizing the NBA, we had POTUS criticizing the
mik3
10/8/19 7:56am
Uh, the Chinese essentially forced a suspension of business with the Rockets.
Ozymandias
10/8/19 8:02am
No, Trump is worse than the Chinese Government. He has to be.
TerribleOpinionsGuy
10/8/19 8:03am
Your post mentioned the government censoring speech. In that regard, I think the two
mik3
10/8/19 8:09am
Look Trump is an idiot in the highest regard. However comparing Trump speaking
Ozymandias
10/8/19 8:20am
China is worse. But the principle of the thing, IMO, is the same: the government
mik3
10/8/19 8:24am
What was the government component in the Kaep situation? If it just Trump
Ozymandias
10/8/19 8:27am
Is Trump in his official role no longer the government, then?
mik3
10/8/19 8:31am
So in your mind, asking is the same as pressuring?
Ozymandias
10/8/19 8:37am
If you're the president, and you've pressured the league in public to do something about it,
mik3
10/8/19 8:42am
How was he pressuring? What was he threatening?
Ozymandias
10/8/19 8:50am
You think the president constantly criticizing something and contacting the decision makers
mik3
10/8/19 9:34am
Without the threat of involvong the government to force the issue, it has no
Ozymandias
10/8/19 11:16am
Trump didn't do anything in his official capacity. Because he couldn't. So, it
califcougar
10/8/19 8:58am
Except some of his criticism came during a press conference in his official capacity.
mik3
10/8/19 9:32am
And?
Ozymandias
10/8/19 9:33am
And it was in his official capacity. Thought that was a simple point to grasp.
mik3
10/8/19 10:26am
Was he threatening governmental action?
Ozymandias
10/8/19 11:17am
Did he use government power to completely shut them down?
califcougar
10/8/19 8:14am
No, just to pressure them into passing rules to prevent protests.
mik3
10/8/19 8:18am
Pressuring them how?
Ozymandias
10/8/19 8:21am
RE: Pressuring them how?
mik3
10/8/19 8:21am
So in your mind, asking equals pressuing?
Ozymandias
10/8/19 8:28am
Nobody's going to get hurt, but the thing is: they're not gonna say no, because
joelvandyne
10/8/19 11:44am
I don't follow.
Ozymandias
10/8/19 11:48am
Lol. There is a BIG difference between the Chinese government "pressuring"
JmThms
10/8/19 8:53am
Yes, apparently asking something of someone else why president means you are
Ozymandias
10/8/19 9:00am
I am amazed at the number of patriotic conservatives that support communism.
crazY
10/8/19 8:24am
I'm surprised that people think pointing out hypocrisy equals supporting communism.
mik3
10/8/19 8:28am
Haha, whenever conservatives point out hypocrisy y'all scream #whataboutism.
Ozymandias
10/8/19 8:29am
Haha "conservatives". You should look up that whataboutism actually is first.
mik3
10/8/19 8:40am
Huh? I wasnt referencing only this particular thread.
Ozymandias
10/8/19 8:51am
Chinese government action =/= American President stated opinion. Therefore there
JmThms
10/8/19 8:57am
Both go to the same principle: the government attacking speech they don't like.
mik3
10/8/19 10:26am
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