So in your mind, asking is the same as pressuring?

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Oct 8, 2019
8:37:12am

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Ozymandias

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The craziest thing to me is seeing some of the same people who hated Kaep for protesting a social issue in the US, then

scootsy First name: Tom; Last: Foolery

10/8/19 6:23am

I disagreed with Kaep's approach not his right.

Tweege

10/8/19 6:36am

Time and place. Morey didn’t put it on the scoreboard during a game or

gwalker

10/8/19 6:44am

Except people still dismissed the issue. Convenient excuse, hate the messenger so that you can block out the message

scootsy

10/8/19 6:52am

The message was some vague "america is bad and racist" attack

Mems

10/8/19 7:13am

So you informed yourself and then took a stance? Well done. Doesn’t sound like you tried that with Kaep though.

scootsy

10/8/19 7:20am

Kaep hasn't really informed himself either, have you heard him talk on the

IceCreamButt

10/8/19 7:54am

Don't blame me if Kaep can't communicate a clear message

Mems

10/8/19 8:47am

I still don't understand why Kaep couldn't have protested in a way that

DapperDan

10/8/19 6:51am

Ruined your Sundays?

JuicyJam

10/8/19 6:58am

The point of the protest was so that you would hear about it...?

Jimmerfan32

10/8/19 7:42am

You missed the sarcasm.

ironman1315

10/8/19 8:13am

Right? Why can’t every protest be silent. I ain’t got no time for that!

Jay Rick

10/8/19 5:59pm

Lol. Yes that’s it

YIsForBrigham

10/8/19 6:52am

Because obviously every social issue and every protest is exactly the same

Skeptical Optimist

10/8/19 6:58am

RE: The craziest thing to me is seeing some of the same people who hated Kaep

TerribleOpinionsGuy

10/8/19 6:58am

If the situation of the people in China was remotely close to anyone in America,

Little Britches

10/8/19 6:59am

Yeah, innocent 18 year olds never get shot by security forces in the US

Wagon

10/8/19 4:47pm

This is a bad oversimplification of the situation.

crazY

10/8/19 4:48pm

Oh my life in the US is worlds better than it would be in China, for sure. But

Wagon

10/8/19 5:00pm

All segments of our people are worlds ahead of the average Chinese person.

crazY

10/8/19 7:34pm

Offer any Chinese you want a trade and you’ll get taken up on it

Little Britches

10/8/19 6:38pm

Isn't this the part where all the people who gave this a thumbs up are supposed

TerribleOpinionsGuy

10/8/19 7:03am

I'm kind of surprised you got some thumbs up

Idahofallsblue

10/8/19 7:27am

Look who gave it the thumbs up and you won't be surprised.

TerribleOpinionsGuy

10/8/19 7:34am

Haha. You really dont see the difference between public backlash and a

Ozymandias

10/8/19 7:29am

Just like the Chinese government criticizing the NBA, we had POTUS criticizing the

mik3

10/8/19 7:56am

Uh, the Chinese essentially forced a suspension of business with the Rockets.

Ozymandias

10/8/19 8:02am

No, Trump is worse than the Chinese Government. He has to be.

TerribleOpinionsGuy

10/8/19 8:03am

Your post mentioned the government censoring speech. In that regard, I think the two

mik3

10/8/19 8:09am

Look Trump is an idiot in the highest regard. However comparing Trump speaking

Ozymandias

10/8/19 8:20am

China is worse. But the principle of the thing, IMO, is the same: the government

mik3

10/8/19 8:24am

What was the government component in the Kaep situation? If it just Trump

Ozymandias

10/8/19 8:27am

Is Trump in his official role no longer the government, then?

mik3

10/8/19 8:31am

So in your mind, asking is the same as pressuring?

Ozymandias

10/8/19 8:37am

If you're the president, and you've pressured the league in public to do something about it,

mik3

10/8/19 8:42am

How was he pressuring? What was he threatening?

Ozymandias

10/8/19 8:50am

You think the president constantly criticizing something and contacting the decision makers

mik3

10/8/19 9:34am

Without the threat of involvong the government to force the issue, it has no

Ozymandias

10/8/19 11:16am

Trump didn't do anything in his official capacity. Because he couldn't. So, it

califcougar

10/8/19 8:58am

Except some of his criticism came during a press conference in his official capacity.

mik3

10/8/19 9:32am

And?

Ozymandias

10/8/19 9:33am

And it was in his official capacity. Thought that was a simple point to grasp.

mik3

10/8/19 10:26am

Was he threatening governmental action?

Ozymandias

10/8/19 11:17am

Did he use government power to completely shut them down?

califcougar

10/8/19 8:14am

No, just to pressure them into passing rules to prevent protests.

mik3

10/8/19 8:18am

Pressuring them how?

Ozymandias

10/8/19 8:21am

RE: Pressuring them how?

mik3

10/8/19 8:21am

So in your mind, asking equals pressuing?

Ozymandias

10/8/19 8:28am

Nobody's going to get hurt, but the thing is: they're not gonna say no, because

joelvandyne

10/8/19 11:44am

I don't follow.

Ozymandias

10/8/19 11:48am

Lol. There is a BIG difference between the Chinese government "pressuring"

JmThms

10/8/19 8:53am

Yes, apparently asking something of someone else why president means you are

Ozymandias

10/8/19 9:00am

I am amazed at the number of patriotic conservatives that support communism.

crazY

10/8/19 8:24am

I'm surprised that people think pointing out hypocrisy equals supporting communism.

mik3

10/8/19 8:28am

Haha, whenever conservatives point out hypocrisy y'all scream #whataboutism.

Ozymandias

10/8/19 8:29am

Haha "conservatives". You should look up that whataboutism actually is first.

mik3

10/8/19 8:40am

Huh? I wasnt referencing only this particular thread.

Ozymandias

10/8/19 8:51am

Chinese government action =/= American President stated opinion. Therefore there

JmThms

10/8/19 8:57am

Both go to the same principle: the government attacking speech they don't like.

mik3

10/8/19 10:26am

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