I felt that way about Liberty before the game. After the game I've changed

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Nov 17, 2019
7:40:50pm

Goliath All-American

my mind. Seems like a pretty decent team with people trying to do the right thing. I think we should support them.

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Goliath

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Teams played as an Independent that you wish Holmoe would never schedule again:

foofcoug Wonder what the character limi

11/17/19 3:54pm

Wasn’t the MTSU a 2/1?

DieHarder

11/17/19 3:56pm

RE: Wasn’t the MTSU a 2/1?

foofcoug

11/17/19 3:57pm

Notre Dame.

spugeddy24

11/17/19 3:57pm

Yeah we shouldn’t give them a return game to Provo

DieHarder

11/17/19 3:59pm

They ain’t coming. Collect the check and move on.

spugeddy24

11/17/19 4:01pm

Or do you prefer we give them two more home games

spugeddy24

11/17/19 4:02pm

UMass, liberty, any MAC team

LiveCoug

11/17/19 3:57pm

Toledo, Northern Illinois

arizonacougarfan

11/17/19 3:58pm

I’m OK with playing these two, but could be 2:1s, ideally.

chilango

11/17/19 4:20pm

I don’t think it’s reasonable to complain about games scheduled we couldn’t even win. Should be no

46in96

11/17/19 5:15pm

The 2016 Toledo game was one of the best games I’ve been to.

Boring

11/17/19 6:24pm

If you’re full of . . .

BYUforlife

11/17/19 3:58pm

Disagree. Don’t help to legitimize Falwell and his minions.

chilango

11/17/19 4:18pm

Minions? Come on, we've been hit with that rationale. Not cool.

Oatmeal

11/17/19 7:25pm

I agree with Coug4life

eyes4byu

11/17/19 6:31pm

Nevada

pegushin

11/17/19 4:05pm

Agree on Liberty. And all FCS teams — I wish we’d stop scheduling them. I would

chilango

11/17/19 4:16pm

Yes, no FCS teams, ever.

cougarmeister

11/17/19 4:23pm

I’m fine with FCS in years have 7 home games

Turnpike Lane

11/17/19 4:29pm

FCS games are nice to develop young players especially with new redshirt rule

arizonacougarfan

11/17/19 4:35pm

Only one. UMass. Fine with Liberty.

KL2BYU

11/17/19 6:08pm

Utah

Backcountry

11/17/19 4:24pm

CUSA schools. I’d rather the G5 be more regional when possible.

Turnpike Lane

11/17/19 4:31pm

And no MAC teams either

arizonacougarfan

11/17/19 4:36pm

Disagree. I think we need to play all around the country. There are BYU fans

chilango

11/17/19 4:50pm

Then play Indiana instead of Toledo and northwestern instead of NIU

LiveCoug

11/17/19 4:53pm

Bloomington, Indiana is far away from Toledo. There’s nothing wrong with playing

chilango

11/17/19 5:07pm

I'm just saying general area. It's not like there are tons of LDS in Toledo

LiveCoug

11/17/19 5:08pm

There are many within a 60-90 minute drive, including the Detroit and Cleveland

chilango

11/17/19 5:23pm

Sure. Still not my point. Play Michigan State. Play Pitt. Play Purdue.

LiveCoug

11/17/19 5:31pm

Play them too. No reason to exclude MAC schools.

chilango

11/17/19 5:34pm

We're not going to get Big 10 teams every time we want to go to the Midwest.

Mojave

11/17/19 7:57pm

True but travel needs to be limited. It affects winning.

Turnpike Lane

11/17/19 4:54pm

Agree 100%. And 7 home games should be the norm - or at least the goal. Catering to fans outside of the region at the

foofcoug

11/17/19 5:00pm

If they had 7 games, there will be Liberty, Idaho States, UMass, NMSUs.... and

Benfica1

11/17/19 6:10pm

I agree.

chilango

11/17/19 5:07pm

Games all around the country is what I like best about independence. Why play

ptcougr

11/18/19 6:46am

Yes, be as regional as possible.

Benfica1

11/17/19 5:52pm

CUSA and Sun Belt are glorified FCS schools.

Y05

11/18/19 6:42am

I'm OK with all teams - if peppered in correctly. I don't like back to back bads

Benfica1

11/17/19 5:51pm

I think Memphis is the only team I never want to play again

7FootRussian

11/17/19 5:56pm

I liked Liberty. I respect what they are trying to do.

BleedBlueBlood

11/17/19 6:47pm

I felt that way about Liberty before the game. After the game I've changed

Goliath

11/17/19 7:40pm

Their team and fans were classy, their institution actively pursues bigotry,

Mojave

11/17/19 7:50pm

That's the same allegation people make about BYU.

KL2BYU

11/17/19 7:51pm

No, it's not. They literally have classes teaching students to hate Mormons.

Mojave

11/17/19 7:57pm

What better way to combat that than to love them, treat them well, and show them

Goliath

11/17/19 8:08pm

As I mentioned earlier, it's possible to be both in favor of that and against

Mojave

11/17/19 8:26pm

I don't think it hurts us in anyway to play them. I think it possibly does some

Goliath

11/17/19 8:34pm

Hmmmm....this kind of rationale sounds so familiar. Oh yeah its

GSwarriorcoug

11/17/19 9:09pm

As already mentioned, the difference is that Liberty actually has classes and

Mojave

11/17/19 9:32pm

I didn't realize they actually teach classes like that

7FootRussian

11/17/19 9:42pm

The article Goliath linked below references it.

chilango

11/17/19 9:58pm

Here are a couple links, one of which includes excerpts from their textbooks

Mojave

11/17/19 10:14pm

Did you actually read the links that you just posted?? They contradict what you

GSwarriorcoug

11/18/19 2:12am

I did read them, you evidently didn't though. The quote you gave was from a

Mojave

11/18/19 11:46am

Dude, sometimes it is better to just admit you are wrong

GSwarriorcoug

11/18/19 5:05pm

No, you are blatantly misreading it. You wdere wrong, admit it.

Mojave

11/18/19 6:27pm

Look, I apologize if my snarkiness offended you.

GSwarriorcoug

11/18/19 9:16pm

You know nothing then. The links absolutely show bigotry, and you're lying

Mojave

11/18/19 9:48pm

Wow. You are a piece of work. Have a good night.

GSwarriorcoug

11/18/19 9:59pm

If by piece of work, you mean intellectually honest unlike you, yes.

Mojave

11/18/19 10:04pm

You forgot the first rule about arguing with adolescents

Goliath

11/18/19 11:44pm

Can you post a link to the Liberty University Course on bashing Mormons?

KL2BYU

11/17/19 9:51pm

Looks to me like Liberty is very chummy with Glen Beck and took some heat over

Goliath

11/17/19 9:52pm

All these examples demonstrate is that Falwell is willing to compromise his

chilango

11/17/19 9:57pm

Falwell is the leader of the school isn't he? So, I think his position on the

Goliath

11/17/19 10:06pm

His position was that Mitt was the GOP candidate, and he decided he needed to

chilango

11/17/19 10:34pm

It wasn't just Mitt, it was Glenn Beck (twice)

Goliath

11/17/19 10:38pm

Unfortunately, that's not true. In the blowback over Beck speaking at

Mojave

11/17/19 9:59pm

I don't read that letter at all in the way that you do

Goliath

11/17/19 10:02pm

There's no way to sugarcoat it, you're reading it wrong then.

Mojave

11/17/19 10:09pm

Please paste the part that I'm not reading "right"

Goliath

11/17/19 10:13pm

A graduate-level religion course that's not focused on mormonism?

Goliath

11/17/19 10:16pm

Sure, Here's a few of the blatant parts.

Mojave

11/17/19 10:21pm

There's nothing in what you pasted that says anything bad towards our church

Goliath

11/17/19 10:23pm

It does though, quite obviously. There's no nice way to fix what you're missing

Mojave

11/17/19 10:24pm

Okay. Have a nice night.

Goliath

11/17/19 10:39pm

Actually, my bad, that link is about a graduate course. Freshman textbook is

Mojave

11/17/19 10:23pm

The idea that we're too big of a program to travel to Toledo is the same garbage

Mojave

11/17/19 7:41pm

^^^BINGO^^^

CougarThug

11/17/19 8:29pm

I prefer a Big 12 conference. I don't care until we get the invite.

Stev_ie

11/17/19 9:25pm

Utah. They keep beating us.

UNHuskerCoug

11/17/19 10:54pm

I hate playing FCS teams

NorthwestCoug

11/18/19 1:35am

Better take Florida teams off the list as well since we can't win there either

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